Posted by Spamlet on September 2, 2010, 3:51 pm
> On 9/2/2010 12:16 PM, john hamilton wrote:> Do these shrubs so close to a
> house wall pose any future problems for the
> > house brickwork?
> >http://tinypic.com/r/2sbtyz5/7
> > Thanks for advice.
> Probably no harm, but, have you not heard the word, prune?
> I don't allow any bush to touch my house.
What is that, euonymous, maybe? Should take pruning
wonderfully. I wouldn't use shears, but I don't like an
overly manicured look.
Looks like a little weeding is in order, too. Something
else is growing up in there. Stay on top of it.
My yard is a weedy mess; I've got glossy buckthorn
growing up everywhere. I regret letting it get out of hand.
Now it's going to be a buttload of work to hack it down
and keep it down.
Cindy Hamilton
Not sure what you mean by 'glossy buckthorn' - though I've had terrible
problems with berberis/mahonia which puts out roots all over the place and
is impervious to weedkillers.
With bushes that sucker, digging/winching them up is the only way: the more
you cut the more they spread. Whole hillsides round here have been covered
in dogwood, thanks to well meaning 'scrub bashing' events, just making more
problems for later.
S
Posted by Cindy Hamilton on September 2, 2010, 4:00 pm
> > On 9/2/2010 12:16 PM, john hamilton wrote:> Do these shrubs so close to a
> > house wall pose any future problems for the
> > > house brickwork?
> > >http://tinypic.com/r/2sbtyz5/7
> > > Thanks for advice.
> > Probably no harm, but, have you not heard the word, prune?
> > I don't allow any bush to touch my house.
> What is that, euonymous, maybe? Should take pruning
> wonderfully. I wouldn't use shears, but I don't like an
> overly manicured look.
> Looks like a little weeding is in order, too. Something
> else is growing up in there. Stay on top of it.
> My yard is a weedy mess; I've got glossy buckthorn
> growing up everywhere. I regret letting it get out of hand.
> Now it's going to be a buttload of work to hack it down
> and keep it down.
> Cindy Hamilton
> Not sure what you mean by 'glossy buckthorn' - though I've had terrible
> problems with berberis/mahonia which puts out roots all over the place and
> is impervious to weedkillers.
> With bushes that sucker, digging/winching them up is the only way: the more
> you cut the more they spread. Whole hillsides round here have been covered
> in dogwood, thanks to well meaning 'scrub bashing' events, just making more
> problems for later.
> S
Here's the enemy (although this page focuses mainly on common
buckthorn,
it also talks about glossy buckthorn):
http://dnr.wi.gov/invasives/fact/buckthorn_com.htm
The problem for me is that the damned birds eat the berries and crap
them out wherever they perch, resulting in buckthorn seedlings under
every tree in my yard, and mixed in with the desirable shrubs.
Cindy Hamilton
Posted by Spamlet on September 2, 2010, 7:06 pm
> > On 9/2/2010 12:16 PM, john hamilton wrote:> Do these shrubs so close to
> > a
> > house wall pose any future problems for the
> > > house brickwork?
> > >http://tinypic.com/r/2sbtyz5/7
> > > Thanks for advice.
> > Probably no harm, but, have you not heard the word, prune?
> > I don't allow any bush to touch my house.
> What is that, euonymous, maybe? Should take pruning
> wonderfully. I wouldn't use shears, but I don't like an
> overly manicured look.
> Looks like a little weeding is in order, too. Something
> else is growing up in there. Stay on top of it.
> My yard is a weedy mess; I've got glossy buckthorn
> growing up everywhere. I regret letting it get out of hand.
> Now it's going to be a buttload of work to hack it down
> and keep it down.
> Cindy Hamilton
> Not sure what you mean by 'glossy buckthorn' - though I've had terrible
> problems with berberis/mahonia which puts out roots all over the place and
> is impervious to weedkillers.
> With bushes that sucker, digging/winching them up is the only way: the
> more
> you cut the more they spread. Whole hillsides round here have been covered
> in dogwood, thanks to well meaning 'scrub bashing' events, just making
> more
> problems for later.
> S
Here's the enemy (although this page focuses mainly on common
buckthorn,
it also talks about glossy buckthorn):
http://dnr.wi.gov/invasives/fact/buckthorn_com.htm
The problem for me is that the damned birds eat the berries and crap
them out wherever they perch, resulting in buckthorn seedlings under
every tree in my yard, and mixed in with the desirable shrubs.
Cindy Hamilton
Ah, well this is supposed to be *UK* d-i-y, but what an excellent website
your Wisconsin DNR has produced! (US authorities seem to be very clear and
open with botanical data compared with the UK where 'traditionally'
collectors of such data have been rather reluctant to share. They are
improving though.)
Here (Luton UK) we have similar problems with the pigeons and ivy berries,
but the ivy flowers are so important for the bees and late (Red Admiral)
butterflies, I put up with a little more weeding than I might otherwise
like: just wish the pigeons didn't seem to specifically target one
particular hellebore though - it's only supposed to have white *flowers*!
A teaspoon of buckthorn berries is supposed to be an effective laxative if I
recall correctly. Here, the plant is only really common along chalky
hillsides, where the unwary will often confuse it with dogwood (which is
much more problematic, because of the suckers.).
Nice to hear from you,
S
Posted by Cindy Hamilton on September 7, 2010, 10:42 am
> > > On 9/2/2010 12:16 PM, john hamilton wrote:> Do these shrubs so close to
> > > a
> > > house wall pose any future problems for the
> > > > house brickwork?
> > > >http://tinypic.com/r/2sbtyz5/7
> > > > Thanks for advice.
> > > Probably no harm, but, have you not heard the word, prune?
> > > I don't allow any bush to touch my house.
> > What is that, euonymous, maybe? Should take pruning
> > wonderfully. I wouldn't use shears, but I don't like an
> > overly manicured look.
> > Looks like a little weeding is in order, too. Something
> > else is growing up in there. Stay on top of it.
> > My yard is a weedy mess; I've got glossy buckthorn
> > growing up everywhere. I regret letting it get out of hand.
> > Now it's going to be a buttload of work to hack it down
> > and keep it down.
> > Cindy Hamilton
> > Not sure what you mean by 'glossy buckthorn' - though I've had terrible
> > problems with berberis/mahonia which puts out roots all over the place and
> > is impervious to weedkillers.
> > With bushes that sucker, digging/winching them up is the only way: the
> > more
> > you cut the more they spread. Whole hillsides round here have been covered
> > in dogwood, thanks to well meaning 'scrub bashing' events, just making
> > more
> > problems for later.
> > S
> Here's the enemy (although this page focuses mainly on common
> buckthorn,
> it also talks about glossy buckthorn):
> http://dnr.wi.gov/invasives/fact/buckthorn_com.htm
> The problem for me is that the damned birds eat the berries and crap
> them out wherever they perch, resulting in buckthorn seedlings under
> every tree in my yard, and mixed in with the desirable shrubs.
> Cindy Hamilton
> Ah, well this is supposed to be *UK* d-i-y, but what an excellent website
> your Wisconsin DNR has produced! (US authorities seem to be very clear and
> open with botanical data compared with the UK where 'traditionally'
> collectors of such data have been rather reluctant to share. They are
> improving though.)
It was cross-posted to alt.home.repair, which is where I saw it.
> Here (Luton UK) we have similar problems with the pigeons and ivy berries,
> but the ivy flowers are so important for the bees and late (Red Admiral)
> butterflies, I put up with a little more weeding than I might otherwise
> like: just wish the pigeons didn't seem to specifically target one
> particular hellebore though - it's only supposed to have white *flowers*!
<snort>
I let a few milkweed grow up for the monarch butterflies. Drives my
husband crazy, since they're "weeds".
> A teaspoon of buckthorn berries is supposed to be an effective laxative if I
> recall correctly. Here, the plant is only really common along chalky
> hillsides, where the unwary will often confuse it with dogwood (which is
> much more problematic, because of the suckers.).
> Nice to hear from you,
Likewise.
Cindy Hamilton
Posted by Weatherlawyer on September 3, 2010, 9:47 am
> On 9/2/2010 12:16 PM, john hamilton wrote:> Do these shrubs so close to a
house wall pose any future problems for the
> > house brickwork?
> >http://tinypic.com/r/2sbtyz5/7
> > Thanks for advice.
> Probably no harm but have you not heard the word: prune?
> I don't allow any bush to touch my house.
They don't look like prunes (which if they are anything like damsons
only drier, will invade everything.)
It's the roots that cause the problems in having trees and shrubs near
buildings. Anything that separates the matrix is a danger to the
integrity of the building.
As for hedges drying a soil, they also dampen it in humid weather as
leaves will put water into the ground on foggy or misty days. (Which
is one of the biggest banes to histericans trying to make pieces fit
in with mental-chronology. Not the only problem they don't face
though, there's plenty more unconsidered where that came from.)
> house wall pose any future problems for the
> > house brickwork?
> >http://tinypic.com/r/2sbtyz5/7
> > Thanks for advice.
> Probably no harm, but, have you not heard the word, prune?
> I don't allow any bush to touch my house.