Posted by Marilyn on December 15, 2005, 12:36 pm
Janet,
I have been lurking here for a few weeks but have not posted before. This
newsgroup seems to have its fair share of trolls and troublemakers, and I
can understand that you have to deal with them firmly.
I have to say though that you seem to have been very unfair to Spider in the
'gates' thread. From what I can see she has not joined in any of the
trolling, and I have learned several things from her helpful replies to
people in this group.
In this particular thread she made what seems to be an honest mistake, and
when you pointed this out she admitted it and apologised, even offering to
leave the group.
To apologise is a decent and honorable thing, but you seem to have turned it
onto a crime. What more could she do? If you had responded to me like that I
would be very offended.
There is a lot of interesting discussion on this group, but I will not be
taking part now because it is likely that at some time I might make a
similar mistake and I do not want to be treated in the same way.
I expect you will tell me to mind my own business, but I wanted Spider to
know that at least one person understands how she feels!
Marilyn
>> If you think I am a troll, you must say
>> so and I will leave the group. (snip) I would be grateful for
>> your response so that I may quit the group or continue within in it.
> First, you misinform a newbie. Then you claim innocent ignorance of
> this group's well publicised views on advertising. Then you feign
> ignorance of a longterm well-publicised troll agenda to do exactly that.
> Then you pretend that I control your presence on this group; which is
> another lie on the troll agenda here, and demand a reply, which is
> another troll habit.
> You're tying a noose round your own neck....just like Puce and Crowe.
Posted by Andy Cap on December 15, 2005, 1:25 pm
wrote:
>Janet,
<snip>
>There is a lot of interesting discussion on this group, but I will not be
>taking part now because it is likely that at some time I might make a
>similar mistake and I do not want to be treated in the same way.
<snip>
>Marilyn
Marilyn
Don't not post simply because you find something disagreeable, these
events are inevitable from time to time in an open forum and happen in
every newsgoup.
Listen to and contribute with those people you find helpful and
ignore those you find disagreeable and provocative. Some individuals
seem to get their entertainment from provoking disagreement but you
will soon recognize them.
Happy posting Andy
Posted by Stephen Howard on December 15, 2005, 1:34 pm
wrote:
>Janet,
>I have been lurking here for a few weeks but have not posted before. This
>newsgroup seems to have its fair share of trolls and troublemakers, and I
>can understand that you have to deal with them firmly.
>I have to say though that you seem to have been very unfair to Spider in the
>'gates' thread. From what I can see she has not joined in any of the
>trolling, and I have learned several things from her helpful replies to
>people in this group.
>In this particular thread she made what seems to be an honest mistake, and
>when you pointed this out she admitted it and apologised, even offering to
>leave the group.
>To apologise is a decent and honorable thing, but you seem to have turned it
>onto a crime. What more could she do? If you had responded to me like that I
>would be very offended.
>There is a lot of interesting discussion on this group, but I will not be
>taking part now because it is likely that at some time I might make a
>similar mistake and I do not want to be treated in the same way.
>I expect you will tell me to mind my own business, but I wanted Spider to
>know that at least one person understands how she feels!
>Marilyn
How strange...
I stopped browsing this group some time ago when I got heartily sick
and tired of the infighting and bickering. It was rather like opening
a gardening book and finding someone had stuck pages from a TV soap
script inside.
Just lately I had cause to refer to my archives from this group and I
noted just how many knowledgeable and courteous posters had slowly,
quietly drifted away.
But this being the season of goodwill ( and all that kind of thing )
I thought I'd drop by and see whether the group had rediscovered the
kind of atmosphere one used you get whenever Geoff Hamilton used to
pop up on the TV with the latest edition of Gardener's World.
And what do I find?
If anything it looks like things have deteriorated even further.
Ah well, best of luck etc. - maybe next year...
Regards,
--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showardshwoodwindcouk
Posted by Adrian on December 15, 2005, 2:39 pm
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:34:59 +0000, Stephen Howard
>Just lately I had cause to refer to my archives from this group and I
>noted just how many knowledgeable and courteous posters had slowly,
>quietly drifted away.
And they left the nuts to fill in for them.
>And what do I find? If anything it looks like things have deteriorated even
further.
And they glorify in it. Some of the so called experts here are worse
than the bloody trolls. At least they go. The "experts" stay and dish
out shit to the rest of us. Morphing is the only way to keep out of
their gun sights.
You will soon know who to watch. Once she starts boyo her rectum
rimmers join in with a vengeance. I suppose they are hoping to get an
electronic leg-over. What they want is a tight wee group in which to
get their vanity stroked, chase everyone else away....
The varieties of human experience.....
Adrian.
Posted by Harry on December 15, 2005, 2:51 pm
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:34:59 +0000, Stephen Howard
>I stopped browsing this group some time ago when I got heartily sick
>and tired of the infighting and bickering. It was rather like opening
>a gardening book and finding someone had stuck pages from a TV soap
>script inside.
>Just lately I had cause to refer to my archives from this group and I
>noted just how many knowledgeable and courteous posters had slowly,
>quietly drifted away.
>But this being the season of goodwill ( and all that kind of thing )
>I thought I'd drop by and see whether the group had rediscovered the
>kind of atmosphere one used you get whenever Geoff Hamilton used to
>pop up on the TV with the latest edition of Gardener's World.
>And what do I find?
>If anything it looks like things have deteriorated even further.
You should be aware that in some people's opinion Sacha poisons every
newsgroup she ever joined.
Look at uk.gossip.royalty for example where she's been substantially
driven out. Read the archives on Google, not a pretty sight.
No-one creates dissent like the self-created Queen of newsnet. Not a
nice person, and a constant spammer.
--
Oliver
>> so and I will leave the group. (snip) I would be grateful for
>> your response so that I may quit the group or continue within in it.
> First, you misinform a newbie. Then you claim innocent ignorance of
> this group's well publicised views on advertising. Then you feign
> ignorance of a longterm well-publicised troll agenda to do exactly that.
> Then you pretend that I control your presence on this group; which is
> another lie on the troll agenda here, and demand a reply, which is
> another troll habit.
> You're tying a noose round your own neck....just like Puce and Crowe.