Posted by Nick Maclaren on May 9, 2005, 9:04 am
|>
|> But some of them *probably* at some point came from garden centres or
|> specialist growers and originally had those scary 'do not propagate from me
|> or we will despatch our winged monkeys of death' messages on them.
|>
|> Is this a likely source of trouble? Would I be safer sticking to just
|> growing on seeds?
If you aren't selling them as the named variety, no. An increasing
proportion of those signs are bogus, but even the ones that do refer
to genuine plant breeders' rights aren't likely to be enforced for
unidentified plants at a charity sale. However, it isn't allowed
in the latter case - though whether it applies to propagation by
self-seeding is most unclear.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Posted by J Jackson on May 9, 2005, 9:28 am
: |>
: |> But some of them *probably* at some point came from garden centres or
: |> specialist growers and originally had those scary 'do not propagate from me
: |> or we will despatch our winged monkeys of death' messages on them.
: |>
: |> Is this a likely source of trouble? Would I be safer sticking to just
: |> growing on seeds?
: If you aren't selling them as the named variety, no. An increasing
: proportion of those signs are bogus, but even the ones that do refer
: to genuine plant breeders' rights aren't likely to be enforced for
: unidentified plants at a charity sale. However, it isn't allowed
: in the latter case - though whether it applies to propagation by
: self-seeding is most unclear.
Currently it can NEVER Apply to seed. It only applies to vegetative
propagation.
Jim
p.s. With the advent of Genetic engineering, I believe that seed bearing
the patented GM gene is covered and you could not seed save and grow
those. Though give the promiscuity of pollen, if you seed saved any
brassica within a 10mile radius of a GM Rape crop you'd have some of the
stuff in some of the seed!
Posted by Nick Maclaren on May 9, 2005, 9:40 am
|>
|> Currently it can NEVER Apply to seed. It only applies to vegetative
|> propagation.
Ah. I wondered. But see below.
|> p.s. With the advent of Genetic engineering, I believe that seed bearing
|> the patented GM gene is covered and you could not seed save and grow
|> those. Though give the promiscuity of pollen, if you seed saved any
|> brassica within a 10mile radius of a GM Rape crop you'd have some of the
|> stuff in some of the seed!
That does not apply in the UK. You can't patent a gene. Yet.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Posted by Sue Begg on May 9, 2005, 9:31 am
>|>
>|> But some of them *probably* at some point came from garden centres or
>|> specialist growers and originally had those scary 'do not propagate from me
>|> or we will despatch our winged monkeys of death' messages on them.
>|>
>|> Is this a likely source of trouble? Would I be safer sticking to just
>|> growing on seeds?
>If you aren't selling them as the named variety, no. An increasing
>proportion of those signs are bogus, but even the ones that do refer
>to genuine plant breeders' rights aren't likely to be enforced for
>unidentified plants at a charity sale. However, it isn't allowed
>in the latter case - though whether it applies to propagation by
>self-seeding is most unclear.
>Regards,
>Nick Maclaren.
I would have thought that if they were spreading by seeding then they
would have possibly crossed with something else and would no longer be
pure to the 'protected' variety
--
Sue Begg
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Posted by Nick Maclaren on May 9, 2005, 10:30 am
|>
|> I would have thought that if they were spreading by seeding then they
|> would have possibly crossed with something else and would no longer be
|> pure to the 'protected' variety
It doesn't matter what a gardener, biologist or other semi-sane
person thinks; what matters is what the bureaucrats and lawyers
think.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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>|> But some of them *probably* at some point came from garden centres or
>|> specialist growers and originally had those scary 'do not propagate from me
>|> or we will despatch our winged monkeys of death' messages on them.
>|>
>|> Is this a likely source of trouble? Would I be safer sticking to just
>|> growing on seeds?
>If you aren't selling them as the named variety, no. An increasing
>proportion of those signs are bogus, but even the ones that do refer
>to genuine plant breeders' rights aren't likely to be enforced for
>unidentified plants at a charity sale. However, it isn't allowed
>in the latter case - though whether it applies to propagation by
>self-seeding is most unclear.
>Regards,
>Nick Maclaren.