Posted by Sally Thompson on July 31, 2003, 1:43 pm
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:48:51 GMT,
sally.thompsonSALAMANDER@btinternet.com (Sally Thompson) wrote:
>Sorry to post this here, but I know many of you have created your own
>web sites and I am in the process of doing just that (including a
>garden page - so nearly on topic!). Have been using Front Page
>Express but it is very limited and how the pages appear on my PC is
>not how they appear on the website at present. (Probably something
>I've done - sigh.) Can any of you recommend some good web authoring
>programme - preferably not expensive?
WOW! What a response. I am really so grateful to you all, and have
enough homework to keep me out of the garden for a while :-(
For those who may have followed the thread avidly for information
while not contributing (as I frequently do), it may be helpful if I
summarise where I see I have gone particularly wrong (experts stop
reading!):
I used the wrong font for a website.
I used one which was unnecessarily large (saw that by downloading a
few as suggested, and looking at how they were made up).
I should have sized my pix to their display size before inserting them
on the page (I was resizing them by dragging the corner) - have
started doing these (and compressing them a bit more).
I had the page size set too wide (fault of default in Front Page XP,
and actually something which Publisher showed me) - that's partly why
my display was acting so strangely.
I have just downloaded 800-odd messages from uk.net.web.authoring, so
that should keep me quiet for a while.
I am also getting to grips with the Serif Web Design package, which
seems nice and user-friendly, but has a few more bells and whistles
than Front Page XP.
No doubt there will be a new and improved site in due course!
Again thanks to you all - too many to mention - and thanks for the
forbearance of those not interested.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
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Posted by Chris French and Helen Johnson on July 31, 2003, 3:33 pm
>WOW! What a response. I am really so grateful to you all, and have
>enough homework to keep me out of the garden for a while :-(
>For those who may have followed the thread avidly for information
>while not contributing (as I frequently do), it may be helpful if I
>summarise where I see I have gone particularly wrong (experts stop
>reading!):
Just a few comments..!
>I used the wrong font for a website.
Not wrong exactly - the page displayed fine just maybe not how you
imagined it., It's more a case of understanding how the issue of fonts
is dealt with at the browsers end.
>I used one which was unnecessarily large (saw that by downloading a
>few as suggested, and looking at how they were made up).
This a difficult issue really - there are different ways of specifying
font sizes, some work better than others lots' of 'pro' web site
designers get it wrong. Not helped by browsers even on the same computer
coming by default with different default text sizes.
>I had the page size set too wide (fault of default in Front Page XP,
>and actually something which Publisher showed me) - that's partly why
>my display was acting so strangely.
You don't actually need to set a page width at necessarily - unless you
need to do it to keep a certain layout - I tend not like a lot of sites
that do that as it wastes a lot of screen real estate at my end.
>Again thanks to you all - too many to mention - and thanks for the
>forbearance of those not interested.
Glad top have helped :-) (I hope..)
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Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds
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Posted by Jim W on August 1, 2003, 12:05 pm
> I used the wrong font for a website.
There are no 'wrong fonts' its just that you have NO control over which
fonts your viewer has on their machine. THese are the fonts used to make
the site visible at their end.. So its 'better' to use common fonts as
people are more likely to have them installed. There are
'recommendations' for 'webfonts'.
I can strongly recommend you turn to the WebMonkey and its 'How to'
Tutorials.. Here is one for fonts just to get you started!
<http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/design/fonts/>
This is also very good:
<http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/text/webtypography.html>
>
> I used one which was unnecessarily large (saw that by downloading a
> few as suggested, and looking at how they were made up).
>
> I should have sized my pix to their display size before inserting them
> on the page (I was resizing them by dragging the corner) - have
> started doing these (and compressing them a bit more).
Both size, 'compression' and resolution.. As you've realised changing
the display size (by dragging the corner) won;t change the filesize! JPg
'quality' compression should be 50 to 70 % and will still produce a very
good image. Resolution for the web is a defualt 72dpi.
As a general rule. Use jpgs for photos or complex images, gifs for
icons, or graphics which have large areas of colour eg simple logos etc.
//
Jim
Posted by Sally Thompson on August 1, 2003, 2:46 pm
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:05:13 +0100,
00senetnospamtodayta@macunlimited.net (Jim W) wrote:
>> I used the wrong font for a website.
>There are no 'wrong fonts' its just that you have NO control over which
>fonts your viewer has on their machine. THese are the fonts used to make
>the site visible at their end.. So its 'better' to use common fonts as
>people are more likely to have them installed. There are
>'recommendations' for 'webfonts'.
>I can strongly recommend you turn to the WebMonkey and its 'How to'
>Tutorials.. Here is one for fonts just to get you started!
><http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/design/fonts/>
>This is also very good:
><http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/text/webtypography.html>
Thanks for the links Jim - will look at them straightaway and bookmark
them. (Yes, I used the wrong word for "wrong" font - but I knew what
I meant! Have changed it anyway)
New improved site taking shape thanks to you all.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
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>web sites and I am in the process of doing just that (including a
>garden page - so nearly on topic!). Have been using Front Page
>Express but it is very limited and how the pages appear on my PC is
>not how they appear on the website at present. (Probably something
>I've done - sigh.) Can any of you recommend some good web authoring
>programme - preferably not expensive?