Posted by Kay on August 4, 2011, 11:58 am
On 02/08/2011 19:39, in article 99quioF8q9U1@mid.individual.net, "Spider"
> :~) Oh yes, I've rescued a few frogs in the past. Unfortunately,
> Panther returns straight to the pond to fish for it again. Haven't seen
> any frogs for about three years, and I don't think it's all Panther's
> fault. We have seen lots of crows/ravens here (still can't tell the
> difference!), so maybe they've been picking off the poor little critters
> :~(.
Ravens are a size bigger than rooks and crows.
We have a blackbird who we caught in the act of lifting a newt from the
centre of the pond. Apparently not at all unusual.
Posted by Spider on August 4, 2011, 12:41 pm
On 04/08/2011 16:58, Kay wrote:
> On 02/08/2011 19:39, in article 99quioF8q9U1@mid.individual.net, "Spider"
>> :~) Oh yes, I've rescued a few frogs in the past. Unfortunately,
>> Panther returns straight to the pond to fish for it again. Haven't seen
>> any frogs for about three years, and I don't think it's all Panther's
>> fault. We have seen lots of crows/ravens here (still can't tell the
>> difference!), so maybe they've been picking off the poor little critters
>> :~(.
> Ravens are a size bigger than rooks and crows.
> We have a blackbird who we caught in the act of lifting a newt from the
> centre of the pond. Apparently not at all unusual.
I hope you told it that newts are protected by law ;~).
--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay
Posted by Phil Cook on August 4, 2011, 5:51 pm
On 04/08/2011 16:58, Kay wrote:
> On 02/08/2011 19:39, in article 99quioF8q9U1@mid.individual.net, "Spider"
>> We have seen lots of crows/ravens here (still can't tell the
>> difference!), so maybe they've been picking off the poor little critters
>> :~(.
> Ravens are a size bigger than rooks and crows.
Ravens go cronk and crows caw. Also ravens have far more attitude, comes
with the size I guess.
Sizewise from big to small: ravens, rooks, crows, jackdaws.
--
Phil Cook
Posted by Spider on August 5, 2011, 8:16 am
On 04/08/2011 22:51, Phil Cook wrote:
> On 04/08/2011 16:58, Kay wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/08/2011 19:39, in article 99quioF8q9U1@mid.individual.net, "Spider"
>>
>>> We have seen lots of crows/ravens here (still can't tell the
>>> difference!), so maybe they've been picking off the poor little critters
>>> :~(.
>>
>> Ravens are a size bigger than rooks and crows.
> Ravens go cronk and crows caw. Also ravens have far more attitude, comes
> with the size I guess.
> Sizewise from big to small: ravens, rooks, crows, jackdaws.
Thanks. I'm very familiar with Jackdaws and love their blue beady-eye.
Your remaining corvid size scale is useful for comparison, but I
rarely see them side by side to make that kind of judgement. I've also
been told to look out for feathered or shaggy 'trousers' or bare beak,
but they *all* seem to have that! :~( Most frustrating.
--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay
Posted by Phil Cook on August 5, 2011, 10:21 am
On 05/08/2011 13:16, Spider wrote:
> On 04/08/2011 22:51, Phil Cook wrote:
>> On 04/08/2011 16:58, Kay wrote:
>>> Ravens are a size bigger than rooks and crows.
>>
>> Ravens go cronk and crows caw. Also ravens have far more attitude, comes
>> with the size I guess.
>>
>> Sizewise from big to small: ravens, rooks, crows, jackdaws.
> Thanks. I'm very familiar with Jackdaws and love their blue beady-eye.
> Your remaining corvid size scale is useful for comparison, but I
> rarely see them side by side to make that kind of judgement. I've also
> been told to look out for feathered or shaggy 'trousers' or bare beak,
> but they *all* seem to have that! :~( Most frustrating.
Shaggy trousers and a bare beak (actually a patch of bare skin at the
base of the beak) is a description of a rook. They also go caw. Ravens
have more angular heads than the others.
--
Phil Cook
> Panther returns straight to the pond to fish for it again. Haven't seen
> any frogs for about three years, and I don't think it's all Panther's
> fault. We have seen lots of crows/ravens here (still can't tell the
> difference!), so maybe they've been picking off the poor little critters
> :~(.