Peas & beans not setting - no bees

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Posted by Davy on July 13, 2009, 5:40 am
 
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My crop of mangetout is well down on last year and my runner beans are
not setting at all.

Earlier in the year we had more honey bees than for years; but none now.
Instead we have lots of bumble bees, as many as a dozen on a single
flowering plant - but none on the runner beans. The RHS state that
bumble bees cannot polinate runner beans. The runner flowers are
completely devoid of insects. I have allowed red and white clover to
flower in my lawn and they have a fair number of bumble bees too.

What are others experience this year - are your peas and beans covered
in bees?

DAvy


Posted by K on July 13, 2009, 6:15 am
 


Much the same experience as yours. I blamed my poor husbandry (I have
been busy on other things this year) but have been beginning to wonder
if it was lack of bees. Didn't know bumblebees can't pollinate runner
beans - we've had nothing much but bumble bees and hoverflies for the
last couple of years.
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Kay

Posted by Broadback on July 13, 2009, 7:00 am
 

K wrote:

I have seen recommended that spraying with just water in the late
evening helps, I cannot vouch for that as I have never (yet) had a
problem. As mine are only just starting to flower it is too early to
tell yet. In the Spring I was worried that all my apple trees were in
profuse blossom, but not a bee in sight.  However I now have,up to now,
a good crop of apples.

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Posted by Freda on July 13, 2009, 8:09 am
 



To introduce a note of cheer.

I think it was Einstein that said three years without bees = the first year
without people, or similar.

You'd think our elected representatives would be running around like scalded
cats trying to find a solution to this one (reduction in bee population).
Still perhaps they're too busy with the ex's forms.



Posted by Sacha on July 13, 2009, 11:12 am
 



<snip>
I don't pretend to have the answer but this site doesn't agree about
bumble bees and the RHS site seems to refer to the short tongued bumble
bee not helping with pollination:

Pollination and Isolation

Runner beans are pollinated by bumblebees and honey bees and cannot
cross with other types of beans, though they will cross with other
runner beans quite readily. For this reason we recommend a minimum
isolation distance of 800m between runner bean varieties to be certain
of maintaining varietal purity.

If you know of other runner beans being grown within 800m of your plot,
or if you wish to save seed from two or more types of runner bean on
your own plot, isolate varieties either with a fleece bag around each
truss or with a large insect proof cage around several plants. It may
be easier to cage a tepee rather than a row. You then must hand
pollinate each newly opened flower with a thin paintbrush. Do this by
hand each day, simply pressing down on the lower (left) keel of each
newly opened blossom to mimic a bee landing. Then use the paintbrush to
transfer the pollen from anther to stigma. You should use pollen from
another plant of the same variety rather than from the same flower or
plant. If you are growing more than one variety, remember to wash and
dry the paintbrush between varieties.
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/hsl/seed_saving/ssg7_runner_beans.php

I wonder if, next year, you could arrange for a local bee keeper to put
a hive in your garden or on your allotment?

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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon