Posted by <vicky on September 20, 2011, 5:59 am
So I've just taken a look in the greenhouse, and I'm wondering what I can
get through to survive until next year. My current thoughts for things that
could be brought into the house:
* aubergine plants - one is about 3' tall and has 3 fruit on it, I have
others that are less than a foot tall - would any of them survive and
stand a chance of producing next year if I brought them in before frost?
* melons - I have 1 watermelon and 2 melons that started badly and are just
really getting going now, with long strands and flowers, but not much
chance of getting to fruit ... would they stand a chance of pausing over
winter and coming back?
* one pepper plant, with 1 pepper on it (almost at full size)
I've never been good at overwintering. My mandeville has survived well, but
that's pretty much the only successful brought-in-put-back-out that has made
it. Not even my fuschias have survived, except the chequerboard, which I
don't think I even brought in, so it must be a surprise hardy.
What's the general routine - bring in, stop watering except for a drip every
now and then to keep them alive? Will there be enough light in a south
facing window (on the cold side of the curtains in the living room, most
likely, so cool but hopefully not freezing!)? I could put them in the spare
room (also south facing) if they needed more warmth, but presumably I'd have
to turn off the radiator which is directly below the window.
Or am I just destined to fail, and better off starting again in Feb?
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Posted by Baz on September 20, 2011, 2:23 pm
> So I've just taken a look in the greenhouse, and I'm wondering what I
> can get through to survive until next year. My current thoughts for
> things that could be brought into the house:
> * aubergine plants - one is about 3' tall and has 3 fruit on it, I
> have
> others that are less than a foot tall - would any of them survive
> and stand a chance of producing next year if I brought them in
> before frost?
> * melons - I have 1 watermelon and 2 melons that started badly and are
> just
> really getting going now, with long strands and flowers, but not
> much chance of getting to fruit ... would they stand a chance of
> pausing over winter and coming back?
> * one pepper plant, with 1 pepper on it (almost at full size)
>
> I've never been good at overwintering. My mandeville has survived
> well, but that's pretty much the only successful
> brought-in-put-back-out that has made it. Not even my fuschias have
> survived, except the chequerboard, which I don't think I even brought
> in, so it must be a surprise hardy.
>
> What's the general routine - bring in, stop watering except for a drip
> every now and then to keep them alive? Will there be enough light in
> a south facing window (on the cold side of the curtains in the living
> room, most likely, so cool but hopefully not freezing!)? I could put
> them in the spare room (also south facing) if they needed more warmth,
> but presumably I'd have to turn off the radiator which is directly
> below the window.
>
> Or am I just destined to fail, and better off starting again in Feb?
>
vicky.
I know nothing about melons.
One thing I an sure about is that aubergine and peppers are anuals. You
can't overwinter them. Sure you can keep them longer if you look after
them, but they need sowing/planting every year. Don't think that you can
keep them, they will die. It is natural for them to die and when the fruits
of the year have ripened, they drop seeds to grow next time the climate and
conditions are right.
So, you are going to fail, not by your methods, but how nature does it.
We, as gardeners bypass all of this by eating the produce from them and
then buying more seed for next year.
I hope I have made this clear, I sometimes don't.
Baz
Posted by nmm1 on September 20, 2011, 2:31 pm
>One thing I an sure about is that aubergine and peppers are anuals. You
>can't overwinter them. Sure you can keep them longer if you look after
>them, but they need sowing/planting every year. Don't think that you can
>keep them, they will die. It is natural for them to die and when the fruits
>of the year have ripened, they drop seeds to grow next time the climate and
>conditions are right.
It's not what we don't know that causes the trouble; it's what we
know for sure that ain't so!
Peppers are perennials, grown as annuals in the UK. They will
sometimes overwinter if you have the right variety and handle
them right. There are a lot of short-lived tropical perennials
that are almost always grown as annuals in the UK.
I doubt that any of those are worth trying to overwinter, including
the ones I have omitted any references to.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Posted by Baz on September 20, 2011, 3:11 pm
> wrote:
>>
>>One thing I an sure about is that aubergine and peppers are anuals.
>>You can't overwinter them. Sure you can keep them longer if you look
>>after them, but they need sowing/planting every year. Don't think that
>>you can keep them, they will die. It is natural for them to die and
>>when the fruits of the year have ripened, they drop seeds to grow next
>>time the climate and conditions are right.
>
> It's not what we don't know that causes the trouble; it's what we
> know for sure that ain't so!
>
> Peppers are perennials, grown as annuals in the UK. They will
> sometimes overwinter if you have the right variety and handle
> them right. There are a lot of short-lived tropical perennials
> that are almost always grown as annuals in the UK.
>
> I doubt that any of those are worth trying to overwinter, including
> the ones I have omitted any references to.
>
>
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren.
>
Pardon ME.
Baz
Posted by kay on September 21, 2011, 5:31 pm
'Baz[_3_ Wrote:
> ;937160']
>
> Peppers are perennials, grown as annuals in the UK.
>
As are aubergines.
I gave a friend a plant of "rainbow" chillis, several years ago when
they weren't all over the seed catalogues like they are now. That plant
is still going strong.
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kay
> can get through to survive until next year. My current thoughts for
> things that could be brought into the house:
> * aubergine plants - one is about 3' tall and has 3 fruit on it, I
> have
> others that are less than a foot tall - would any of them survive
> and stand a chance of producing next year if I brought them in
> before frost?
> * melons - I have 1 watermelon and 2 melons that started badly and are
> just
> really getting going now, with long strands and flowers, but not
> much chance of getting to fruit ... would they stand a chance of
> pausing over winter and coming back?
> * one pepper plant, with 1 pepper on it (almost at full size)
>
> I've never been good at overwintering. My mandeville has survived
> well, but that's pretty much the only successful
> brought-in-put-back-out that has made it. Not even my fuschias have
> survived, except the chequerboard, which I don't think I even brought
> in, so it must be a surprise hardy.
>
> What's the general routine - bring in, stop watering except for a drip
> every now and then to keep them alive? Will there be enough light in
> a south facing window (on the cold side of the curtains in the living
> room, most likely, so cool but hopefully not freezing!)? I could put
> them in the spare room (also south facing) if they needed more warmth,
> but presumably I'd have to turn off the radiator which is directly
> below the window.
>
> Or am I just destined to fail, and better off starting again in Feb?
>
vicky.