OT Re: Pieris cuttings

 

  Cheap shot. No doubt if he goes for a walk in the woods and is found
dead there, you'll believe he committed suicide.

Piers Morgan is just the fall guy; don't let the hype about his sacking
distract you from the real issue, which is the motive and identity of
whoever arranged the staging of the pictures his paper published.

  Doesn't anyone else think it's an amazing "coincidence" that they came
to light (in an anti-Iraq-war paper), just as the heat was turned on
America and Blair?

  Janet

 
"Janet Baraclough wrote in message >

It just confirms my 40 year refusal to purchase a British newspaper. You
just can't trust anything they print, they are simply out to make money and
that is their only motive yet they constantly tell us they are doing things
in the public interest etc, they can't even be honest about that.  If it
didn't sell more papers they wouldn't be at all interested, public interest
or not.

Nothing has changed, I remember my Mum telling me that during WW2 a paper
printed what became a famous photo of a family with pets bombed out of their
house all sitting on the rubble of their home looking totally lost. Being a
magazine editor she knew the photographer, and guess what, the family etc
was his, they just walked to a bombsite and staged it with makeup etc. The
story was totally made up.

As for Morgan I too think he is partly the fall guy, but for whom? The
papers owner or Blair himself or is there a third party trying to undermine
things.

Whatever, our lads in Iraq are suffering because of it which certainly means
the Mirror thinks it's profit more important than their lives. The Mirror
should be fined their whole turnover for each of the days they published
those photos.

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Bob

Some photos of my plants at.....
http://uk.geocities.com/hobdens@btinternet.com/index.html

 

Of course it wasn't a coincidence - the wide publication of the shocking
(and unfabricated) revelations about the US part of the coalition's
treatment of prisoners made 'Iraq prisoner abuse' stories highly topical.
Newspapers often keep stories up their sleeves waiting for the right moment
to extract maximum impact, e.g. the Glen Hoddle 'reincarnation' interview
was given months before it was published, but it wasn't used until there was
already growing momentum behind a 'sack Hoddle' campaign.
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undermine

Who knows, but it must be a Government spin doctor's dream come true. They
now have the opportunity to concentrate on displays of righteous indignation
about the fake photos, i.e. they may be able to make the publication of the
photos become the main issue, distracting attention away from the
government's responsibility for our having been sucked into the awful mess
of the coalition's occupation of Iraq in the first place.


Why should the Mirror be fined for publishing photos it believed to be
genuine but which turned out to be fabrications, any more than virtually all
newspapers should be fined for having published material based on the
Government's pre-war Iraq dossiers, which they believed to be genuine but
which turned out to be fabrications? 'Our Lads' may not even have been in
Iraq if the Government hadn't spun so hard to get them over there.

 
It's not just British newspapers. Sixty percent (at least) of everything
printed is not true, doesn't matter if the newspaper is on the left or right.
The trick is to discern the forty percent.

 
Hang on. The pictures may have been faked. But there's no doubt at all
that Piers Morgan exposed the fact (which had not been previously
established, or even revealed to the House of Commons ) that British
troops have been torturing and murdering prisoners in Iraq.

The troops who revealed this, knowing it to be true, were asked for
pictures, and faked them. The pictures were probably faked, but the
facts were true. So you'd rather be kept ignorant of what your
country's doing wrong?

As the father-in-law of a squaddie serving there, I wouldn't. My son in
law's professionalism is tarnished, and his life endangered, by thugs
in the army (we all know they exist) who torture detainees.  I am
mystified by those who want to suggest that it is normal for British
professional soldiers to do this sort of thing, and we should just keep
quiet about it.

Lazarus

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