Posted by Rupert on December 7, 2005, 6:24 pm
So is it true that if a *N*ortherner (North of Watford type) buys summat
from the Southerners--then it might have problems surviving?
I ask this question because a reputable Nursery/garden centre in Cornwall
suggested that it would be better for me (a Northerner) to buy plants
locally.
At this stage you might think that they had better things to do than deal
with small beer but I was talking about substantial business.
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Posted by Mike Lyle on December 7, 2005, 6:41 pm
Rupert wrote:
> So is it true that if a *N*ortherner (North of Watford type) buys
> summat from the Southerners--then it might have problems surviving?
> I ask this question because a reputable Nursery/garden centre in
> Cornwall suggested that it would be better for me (a Northerner) to
> buy plants locally.
> At this stage you might think that they had better things to do
than
> deal with small beer but I was talking about substantial business.
[...]
No, that's what I'd expect from a reputable nursery. Compare forestry
catalogues: they'll tell you provenance along with all the age and
undercutting details. Of course it doesn't matter for all plants.
--
Mike.
Posted by Sacha on December 8, 2005, 5:45 am
On 7/12/05 23:41, in article 3vpab7F16okesU1@individual.net, "Mike Lyle"
> Rupert wrote:
>> So is it true that if a *N*ortherner (North of Watford type) buys
>> summat from the Southerners--then it might have problems surviving?
>> I ask this question because a reputable Nursery/garden centre in
>> Cornwall suggested that it would be better for me (a Northerner) to
>> buy plants locally.
>> At this stage you might think that they had better things to do
> than
>> deal with small beer but I was talking about substantial business.
> [...]
>
> No, that's what I'd expect from a reputable nursery. Compare forestry
> catalogues: they'll tell you provenance along with all the age and
> undercutting details. Of course it doesn't matter for all plants.
Old gardeners always seemed to think that you shouldn't move plants north -
or not far, anyway. I think there's sense in it. Plants grown down here
don't usually meet the more extreme weather of some parts of the north and
won't have toughened up in the same way. One of the reasons we don't use
heat to force plants is because we want to grow them 'hard' but OTOH,
normally speaking, our weather isn't anything like as severe as it can be in
the north.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)
Posted by middleton.walker on December 8, 2005, 6:19 am
> On 7/12/05 23:41, in article 3vpab7F16okesU1@individual.net, "Mike Lyle"
>> Rupert wrote:
>>> So is it true that if a *N*ortherner (North of Watford type) buys
>>> summat from the Southerners--then it might have problems surviving?
>>> I ask this question because a reputable Nursery/garden centre in
>>> Cornwall suggested that it would be better for me (a Northerner) to
>>> buy plants locally.
>>> At this stage you might think that they had better things to do
>> than
>>> deal with small beer but I was talking about substantial business.
>> [...]
>>
>> No, that's what I'd expect from a reputable nursery. Compare forestry
>> catalogues: they'll tell you provenance along with all the age and
>> undercutting details. Of course it doesn't matter for all plants.
> Old gardeners always seemed to think that you shouldn't move plants
> north -
> or not far, anyway. I think there's sense in it. Plants grown down here
> don't usually meet the more extreme weather of some parts of the north and
> won't have toughened up in the same way. One of the reasons we don't use
> heat to force plants is because we want to grow them 'hard' but OTOH,
> normally speaking, our weather isn't anything like as severe as it can be
> in
> the north.
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (remove the weeds to email me)
This almost comes back to zones..in a way....I think nothing of buying
plants from anywhere in the USA providing those plants meet the temperature
etc. requirements of my northern area.....the southern plants very often
cost less because of the warmer winter and lower heating costs....when the
plants arrive I just harden them off...get every bit as good results from
southern nursery grown plants as I do from northern nursery grown
ones....and yes I do understand the climatic conditions over yonder....my
teeth came thru there...I have compared southern nursery plants to my own
from seed and the results are pretty close....the only reasons I grow my own
is a) something to do in my retirement years and b) selection.....(lest I
get chastised, I also enjoy)......H
>
Posted by Colin on December 8, 2005, 3:45 am
wrote:
>So is it true that if a *N*ortherner (North of Watford type) buys summat
>from the Southerners--then it might have problems surviving?
Buy North plant South. Hardier plants. So the old adage goes.
I have friends who buy from a place in Aberdeen to plant out in
Carlisle. They win prizes and have fewer losses than the rest of us.
Bill
> summat from the Southerners--then it might have problems surviving?
> I ask this question because a reputable Nursery/garden centre in
> Cornwall suggested that it would be better for me (a Northerner) to
> buy plants locally.
> At this stage you might think that they had better things to do
than
> deal with small beer but I was talking about substantial business.
[...]