Posted by Scotch Whisky on October 24, 2006, 8:57 am
Hi,
I have about 1/2 acre of grass (I hesitate to call it lawn) with quite a few
flowerbeds. At the moment I use a 21" self propelled mower but am beginning
to find it a bit of a chore these days.
What I am looking for is a small ride on with the following properties:-
1. Easy to operate as my wife will likely be the main user. This means
hydrostatic or other auto drive.
2. Good mulching capability. I would expect mulching to be the norm with
only very occasional use of grass collection.
3. Reliable with easy servicing. I am an ex motor mechanic and would expect
to do my own servicing. £250 plus is a lot of money just to change the oil,
renew the filters and sharpen the blade. I have overhauled many B & S
engines but ever a Honda - perhaps this says something!
4. My budget is £1600 maximum.
I have done a fair amount of research and am currently looking at the
following two machines both of which have hydrostatic transmission and are
from respected manufacturers. I do realise, of course, that Toro and Honda
probably outsource the manufacturer of these smaller machines.
Honda HF 1211 H - This machine appears to meet my requirements. My only
reservation is in its mulching capabilities. The mulching kit seems to
comprise of just a bung in the grass collection shute. I would be very
interested in hearing from anyone who has this particular mower and how well
it mulches.
Toro H132 / 70186 - Again this machine appears to meet my requirements. This
is marketed as having "Recycler Technology" so may have better mulching
performance than the Honda above. I also like the fact that I have been
able to download the full owner and service manual for the Toro. Honda do
not appear to release this information on the internet. I would like to
hear from anyone who has had any experience with this.machine and also is
full service information provided.
Thanks
Dave
Posted by adder1969 on October 24, 2006, 10:18 am
Scotch Whisky wrote:
> Toro H132 / 70186 - Again this machine appears to meet my requirements. This
> is marketed as having "Recycler Technology" so may have better mulching
> performance than the Honda above. I also like the fact that I have been
> able to download the full owner and service manual for the Toro. Honda do
> not appear to release this information on the internet. I would like to
> hear from anyone who has had any experience with this.machine and also is
> full service information provided.
> Thanks
> Dave
Honda usually have downaloadable brochures etc for their engines but
you might have to search around on different sites, e.g. try the US one
instead of the UK one. I thinkk the engine stuff is at
www.hondaengines.com there might be a hypen in there. I have a honda
powered digger and a honda powered mower and both have been fine. What
particularly liek is that they can be started with a very light pull
but I suspect a ride-on would have electric start.
As for the mowers themselves I really don't know!
Posted by EddSmith on October 24, 2006, 2:21 pm
Hello,
I have a John Deere LT180, its an amazing mulching mower. I use it for
commercial sites and it always mulches with no problem. Only problem I
can see is the price but you could always try to find a good second
hand or demo machine.
Edd Smith
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Scotch Whisky wrote:
> > Toro H132 / 70186 - Again this machine appears to meet my requirements. This
> > is marketed as having "Recycler Technology" so may have better mulching
> > performance than the Honda above. I also like the fact that I have been
> > able to download the full owner and service manual for the Toro. Honda do
> > not appear to release this information on the internet. I would like to
> > hear from anyone who has had any experience with this.machine and also is
> > full service information provided.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dave
> Honda usually have downaloadable brochures etc for their engines but
> you might have to search around on different sites, e.g. try the US one
> instead of the UK one. I thinkk the engine stuff is at
> www.hondaengines.com there might be a hypen in there. I have a honda
> powered digger and a honda powered mower and both have been fine. What
> particularly liek is that they can be started with a very light pull
> but I suspect a ride-on would have electric start.
>
> As for the mowers themselves I really don't know!
Posted by Stan The Man on October 24, 2006, 11:19 am
>Hi,
>I have about 1/2 acre of grass (I hesitate to call it lawn) with quite a few
>flowerbeds. At the moment I use a 21" self propelled mower but am beginning
>to find it a bit of a chore these days.
>What I am looking for is a small ride on with the following properties:-
>1. Easy to operate as my wife will likely be the main user. This means
>hydrostatic or other auto drive.
>2. Good mulching capability. I would expect mulching to be the norm with
>only very occasional use of grass collection.
>3. Reliable with easy servicing. I am an ex motor mechanic and would expect
>to do my own servicing. £250 plus is a lot of money just to change the oil,
>renew the filters and sharpen the blade. I have overhauled many B & S
>engines but ever a Honda - perhaps this says something!
>4. My budget is £1600 maximum.
>I have done a fair amount of research and am currently looking at the
>following two machines both of which have hydrostatic transmission and are
>from respected manufacturers. I do realise, of course, that Toro and Honda
>probably outsource the manufacturer of these smaller machines.
>Honda HF 1211 H - This machine appears to meet my requirements. My only
>reservation is in its mulching capabilities. The mulching kit seems to
>comprise of just a bung in the grass collection shute. I would be very
>interested in hearing from anyone who has this particular mower and how well
>it mulches.
>Toro H132 / 70186 - Again this machine appears to meet my requirements. This
>is marketed as having "Recycler Technology" so may have better mulching
>performance than the Honda above. I also like the fact that I have been
>able to download the full owner and service manual for the Toro. Honda do
>not appear to release this information on the internet. I would like to
>hear from anyone who has had any experience with this.machine and also is
>full service information provided.
>Thanks
>Dave
I haven't looked those machines up but I would be surprised to learn
that you can buy _any_ ride-on mulching mower for "under £1600" - and
especially one with hydrostatic transmission. When I was looking a
couple of years ago I bought the cheapest I could find which was the
Stiga Park Compact HST at £1700, but now nearer £2000 I suspect. It
meets all of your criteria and I would recommend it. The UK importers
were good enough to let me have their illustrated workshop manual which
is not usually supplied to consumers, so I have been able to change
belts, blades and other basic maintenance tasks without going to a
dealer.
Posted by 6 on October 25, 2006, 3:08 am
> Hi,
> I have about 1/2 acre of grass (I hesitate to call it lawn) with quite a
> few flowerbeds. At the moment I use a 21" self propelled mower but am
> beginning to find it a bit of a chore these days.
> What I am looking for is a small ride on with the following properties:-
> 1. Easy to operate as my wife will likely be the main user. This means
> hydrostatic or other auto drive.
> 2. Good mulching capability. I would expect mulching to be the norm with
> only very occasional use of grass collection.
> 3. Reliable with easy servicing. I am an ex motor mechanic and would
> expect to do my own servicing. £250 plus is a lot of money just to change
> the oil, renew the filters and sharpen the blade. I have overhauled many
> B & S engines but ever a Honda - perhaps this says something!
> 4. My budget is £1600 maximum.
> I have done a fair amount of research and am currently looking at the
> following two machines both of which have hydrostatic transmission and are
> from respected manufacturers. I do realise, of course, that Toro and
> Honda probably outsource the manufacturer of these smaller machines.
> Honda HF 1211 H - This machine appears to meet my requirements. My only
> reservation is in its mulching capabilities. The mulching kit seems to
> comprise of just a bung in the grass collection shute. I would be very
> interested in hearing from anyone who has this particular mower and how
> well it mulches.
> Toro H132 / 70186 - Again this machine appears to meet my requirements.
> This is marketed as having "Recycler Technology" so may have better
> mulching performance than the Honda above. I also like the fact that I
> have been able to download the full owner and service manual for the Toro.
> Honda do not appear to release this information on the internet. I would
> like to hear from anyone who has had any experience with this.machine and
> also is full service information provided.
> Thanks
> Dave
Sir might look at
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAESTRO-MULCHING-125-RIDE-ON-MOWER_W0QQitemZ130039447126QQihZ003QQcategoryZ50377QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> is marketed as having "Recycler Technology" so may have better mulching
> performance than the Honda above. I also like the fact that I have been
> able to download the full owner and service manual for the Toro. Honda do
> not appear to release this information on the internet. I would like to
> hear from anyone who has had any experience with this.machine and also is
> full service information provided.
> Thanks
> Dave