Is there an issue with individual.net (news.individual.net or mid.individual.net)?

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Posted by Jake on August 1, 2010, 5:57 pm
 
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This is technicalish, sorry, but may "interest" the non-technical
URGlers.

I've been playing with things following the earlier "Mixed Threads"
thread. I've set up a second computer using Outlook as its newsreader
and Giganews as the provider. My main PC uses Agent and Easynews.

The earlier "Mixed threads" thread went on about things getting
crossed, mislinked or disappearing altogether. Chris French and I had
some interesting differences of results which we both thought were
unexplainanble (I hope you agree with that Chris). David WE Roberts
suggested a possible link to [server].individual.net.

There was an assumption that Garden Banter was the problem but I think
we sort of dispensed with that argument. Is David right, though, in
suggesting that individual.net is the problem? Another suggestion is
that "highwinds" is a problem but I haven't been able to tie anything
down with them.

I've noticed differences between the feeds of Easynews and Giganews
when the original posts are from individual.net. Today there have been
some postings from Bob Hobden and David WE Roberts in reply to a
"Repost due to wierd newsreader issue" where I thing DWER was the
original poster and something happened to a post via individual... Am
I right? People may be blaming newsreaders when something up the
stream is the issue.

Sacha and Vicky seem to be using individual.net and I'm seeing more
postings from them in Easynews than I am in Giganews.

This is all, of course, bovine by-product for most URGlers and so it
may remain as long as people accept that something, somewhere, is
causing posts to disappear into the ether, at least for some of us.
The lack of response does not imply discourtesy, ignorance or
whatever. It's just we haven't seen your musings.

Iechyd (or for those who cannot pronounce God's own language, Yaki)
da.

Jake






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Posted by Stephen Wolstenholme on August 1, 2010, 6:22 pm
 

As you are using Agent you could almost guarantee never missing any
posts by adding more news servers to the list rather than depending on
just one or two.

Steve

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Posted by Jake on August 3, 2010, 4:10 pm
 

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:22:16 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme


I used to do that but unless there's something in Agent that I've
never found (being technical but lazy), the problem is that the groups
from the different servers are all listed separately and I get totally
confused, especially with the Microsoft Newsgroups. Having tried
Giganews (and others) in the past, I've found that Easynews has the
closest to 100% delilvery rate. The "individual" postings are missing
from Giga, not Easy. The only issue I've found (recently) is that a
fair number of postings via GardenBanter don't come thru to Easynews
but most of the missing ones don't appear in Google Groups either.

I suppose the sad thing, in a way, is that more and more people will
get to Usenet through the likes of Garden Banter and Google Groups and
the purist "newsreaders" will gradually die out, like a lot of the RSS
readers of old - Windows Mail/Outlook now does it all. Trouble then is
that, gradually, providers will drop Usenet services and organisations
that deliver Usenet services to their networks will withdraw them
because of the more "populist" (I know that's  the wrong word but
can't think of the right one - hope you get my drift) stuff that's now
appearing. Ban Facebook etc today, Usenet tomorrow sort of thing.

I suppose that's progress.

Cheers

Jake

Posted by Bob Hobden on August 2, 2010, 3:34 am
 



"Jake" wrote

I've subscribed to URG through my ISP (BT) as well as NIN so will see if
there is a difference (once it settles down).
That said, it was because of problems with BT that I started using NIN in
the first place.
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Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK
 


Posted by David WE Roberts on August 2, 2010, 5:20 am
 



<snip>

My problem with a missing thread is absolutely 100% my Windoze Mail new
reader software.
I could see the thread on the Virgin news feed until I marked it as a
'watched' thread at which point it pormptly disappeared (or 'stealthed'
itself as Windows Mail seemed to know there was an unread posting in a
watched thread but couldn't display the thread for some reason).

I will check on the Virgin news feed to see if the other threads are shown
as crossed.

Cheers

Dave R
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