Posted by Ian B on June 4, 2010, 10:24 am
Found two yesterday, and just found another one on a different bush today.
The bug is quite big and conspicuous- about 5mm or so long. It has wings.
The head and upper body are black, the lower body is bright orange and soft;
if I squash one, it appears to be orange inside(!) like a sac of soft orange
stuff.
They appear to travel down the stem leaving a black stripe- either cutting a
stripe or laying eggs in a line inside(?), can't easily tell.
Any idea what they are, and if so, are they harmful? I've never seen one
before, but then I've never been a rose gardener before, kind of thing. Any
ID gratefully appreciated.
Ian
Posted by Bob Hobden on June 4, 2010, 11:43 am
"Ian B" wrote...
> Found two yesterday, and just found another one on a different bush today.
> The bug is quite big and conspicuous- about 5mm or so long. It has wings.
> The head and upper body are black, the lower body is bright orange and
> soft; if I squash one, it appears to be orange inside(!) like a sac of
> soft orange stuff.
> They appear to travel down the stem leaving a black stripe- either cutting
> a stripe or laying eggs in a line inside(?), can't easily tell.
> Any idea what they are, and if so, are they harmful? I've never seen one
> before, but then I've never been a rose gardener before, kind of thing.
> Any ID gratefully appreciated.
Sounds like the Rose Slugworm or Rose Slug-sawfly. the lavae are
yellow-green and caterpillar shaped and will eat the top of the leaf. This
Sawfly does not roll the leaf or, usually, eat the underside of the leaf
unlike a lot of other Sawflys.
Confirm it by checking the photos on...
http://bluewisteria.co.uk/pest/pest_search.php?theBug=Rose+sawfly+larve
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK
Posted by Ian B on June 4, 2010, 12:02 pm
Bob Hobden wrote:
> "Ian B" wrote...
>> Found two yesterday, and just found another one on a different bush
>> today. The bug is quite big and conspicuous- about 5mm or so long.
>> It has wings. The head and upper body are black, the lower body is
>> bright orange and soft; if I squash one, it appears to be orange
>> inside(!) like a sac of soft orange stuff.
>>
>> They appear to travel down the stem leaving a black stripe- either
>> cutting a stripe or laying eggs in a line inside(?), can't easily
>> tell. Any idea what they are, and if so, are they harmful? I've never
>> seen
>> one before, but then I've never been a rose gardener before, kind of
>> thing. Any ID gratefully appreciated.
>>
> Sounds like the Rose Slugworm or Rose Slug-sawfly. the lavae are
> yellow-green and caterpillar shaped and will eat the top of the leaf.
> This Sawfly does not roll the leaf or, usually, eat the underside of
> the leaf unlike a lot of other Sawflys.
> Confirm it by checking the photos on...
> http://bluewisteria.co.uk/pest/pest_search.php?theBug=Rose+sawfly+larve
Thanks Bob, that looks like the chappie!
Should I remove and destroy those areas that have been "striped" by the
sawflies? Are they lines of eggs?
Ian
Posted by Bob Hobden on June 4, 2010, 12:06 pm
"Ian B" wrote
> Bob Hobden wrote:
>> "Ian B" wrote...
>>> Found two yesterday, and just found another one on a different bush
>>> today. The bug is quite big and conspicuous- about 5mm or so long.
>>> It has wings. The head and upper body are black, the lower body is
>>> bright orange and soft; if I squash one, it appears to be orange
>>> inside(!) like a sac of soft orange stuff.
>>>
>>> They appear to travel down the stem leaving a black stripe- either
>>> cutting a stripe or laying eggs in a line inside(?), can't easily
>>> tell. Any idea what they are, and if so, are they harmful? I've never
>>> seen
>>> one before, but then I've never been a rose gardener before, kind of
>>> thing. Any ID gratefully appreciated.
>>>
>> Sounds like the Rose Slugworm or Rose Slug-sawfly. the lavae are
>> yellow-green and caterpillar shaped and will eat the top of the leaf.
>> This Sawfly does not roll the leaf or, usually, eat the underside of
>> the leaf unlike a lot of other Sawflys.
>> Confirm it by checking the photos on...
>> http://bluewisteria.co.uk/pest/pest_search.php?theBug=Rose+sawfly+larve
> Thanks Bob, that looks like the chappie!
> Should I remove and destroy those areas that have been "striped" by the
> sawflies? Are they lines of eggs?
I doubt you would get them all so I would use a spray idc when the larvae
first emerge and keep an eye on it.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK
Posted by Ian B on June 4, 2010, 1:31 pm
Bob Hobden wrote:
> "Ian B" wrote
>> Bob Hobden wrote:
>>> "Ian B" wrote...
>>>> Found two yesterday, and just found another one on a different bush
>>>> today. The bug is quite big and conspicuous- about 5mm or so long.
>>>> It has wings. The head and upper body are black, the lower body is
>>>> bright orange and soft; if I squash one, it appears to be orange
>>>> inside(!) like a sac of soft orange stuff.
>>>>
>>>> They appear to travel down the stem leaving a black stripe- either
>>>> cutting a stripe or laying eggs in a line inside(?), can't easily
>>>> tell. Any idea what they are, and if so, are they harmful? I've
>>>> never seen
>>>> one before, but then I've never been a rose gardener before, kind
>>>> of thing. Any ID gratefully appreciated.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like the Rose Slugworm or Rose Slug-sawfly. the lavae are
>>> yellow-green and caterpillar shaped and will eat the top of the
>>> leaf. This Sawfly does not roll the leaf or, usually, eat the
>>> underside of the leaf unlike a lot of other Sawflys.
>>> Confirm it by checking the photos on...
>>> http://bluewisteria.co.uk/pest/pest_search.php?theBug=Rose+sawfly+larve
>>
>> Thanks Bob, that looks like the chappie!
>>
>> Should I remove and destroy those areas that have been "striped" by
>> the sawflies? Are they lines of eggs?
>>
> I doubt you would get them all so I would use a spray idc when the
> larvae first emerge and keep an eye on it.
Thanks Bob, any particular spray? What is "idc"?
Ian
> The bug is quite big and conspicuous- about 5mm or so long. It has wings.
> The head and upper body are black, the lower body is bright orange and
> soft; if I squash one, it appears to be orange inside(!) like a sac of
> soft orange stuff.
> They appear to travel down the stem leaving a black stripe- either cutting
> a stripe or laying eggs in a line inside(?), can't easily tell.
> Any idea what they are, and if so, are they harmful? I've never seen one
> before, but then I've never been a rose gardener before, kind of thing.
> Any ID gratefully appreciated.