Posted by thesquire on January 11, 2006, 2:34 pm
I have been told on good authority that the talc powder based
preparations lose their effectiveness after about eight months, even
if kept in a closed container and refrigerated.
I've checked on my containers and none have any dates. Are they
supposed to ???
Where can I get some 'fresh' rooting powder from ???
Posted by Mike Roscoe on January 11, 2006, 3:42 pm
>snip<
>I have been told on good authority that the talc powder based
> preparations lose their effectiveness after about eight months, even
> if kept in a closed container and refrigerated.
>---
I have been using the same giant tub of hormone rooting powder for
the five years. No wonder my cuttings haven't come to much these past
three.
> Where can I get some 'fresh' rooting powder from ???
Notcutts?
M.R.
Posted by Mike Lyle on January 11, 2006, 6:49 pm
Mike Roscoe wrote:
>> snip<
>> I have been told on good authority that the talc powder based
>> preparations lose their effectiveness after about eight months,
even
>> if kept in a closed container and refrigerated.
>> ---
> I have been using the same giant tub of hormone rooting powder for
> the five years. No wonder my cuttings haven't come to much these
past
> three.
>> Where can I get some 'fresh' rooting powder from ???
> Notcutts?
I know I'm not alone in thinking the freshness of your rooting powder
probably has little to do with your success rate. Few species
actually need it, and -- especially if you use too much -- it can
even _hinder_ rooting. I think light, temperature, moisture level,
and medium are usually more important. It's also easy -- or it is if
you happen to be as casual as I often am -- to put in your cuttings
in such a way or such a medium as to leave an air gap underneath or
around them: this is asking for failure.
--
Mike.
Posted by Rusty Hinge 2 on January 12, 2006, 5:43 am
> I know I'm not alone in thinking the freshness of your rooting powder
> probably has little to do with your success rate. Few species
> actually need it, and -- especially if you use too much -- it can
> even _hinder_ rooting. I think light, temperature, moisture level,
> and medium are usually more important. It's also easy -- or it is if
> you happen to be as casual as I often am -- to put in your cuttings
> in such a way or such a medium as to leave an air gap underneath or
> around them: this is asking for failure.
>
We shall see...
A kind urgler sent me some Worcesterberry cuttings last year and they
went in to a bed I have to pass to get to the back door, and because of
its position, easy to shade. No rooting hormone used.
A neighbour cut off some forsythia and added it to the litter (leaf and
twig!) in the hedge down the loke, and I took a few cuttings from that
and just poked them in. No rooting hormone.
I've never found rooting hormone to affect how cuttings strike - neither
the speed of it nor the reliability.
All the cuttings - Worcesterberry and forsythia appear OK ATM.
--
Rusty
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Posted by cliff_the_gardener on January 12, 2006, 6:46 am
Mike,
you raise some good points here.
The main advantage of rooting powder is the fungicide, IMO
I was told there were a couple of reasons for failure beyond what you
have mentioned. Too much powder forms a cap which affects air and
moisture reaching the root zone, which then affects the roots abbility
to break though the talc cap. This is one of the reasons I have moved
over too gel.
I take you point about other factors being major players, humidity,
moisture etc, but they are out of control for most amateurs (how many
of us can accurately control temperature - many domestic electric
propogators have fixed thermostats - my Scotts heats the soil to 24°C,
which explained my poor performance)
>I have been told on good authority that the talc powder based
> preparations lose their effectiveness after about eight months, even
> if kept in a closed container and refrigerated.
>---