Posted by Welsh Witch on July 11, 2006, 4:44 am
Here I am standing in the vegetable garden. I have lost tons of labels and
I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is the
peas.
I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
"early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to eat
the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of the
other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew conventional
veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
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Posted by Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) on July 11, 2006, 5:05 am
> Here I am standing in the vegetable garden. I have lost tons of labels and
> I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is the
> peas.
> I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
> "early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
> grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
> which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to eat
> the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of the
> other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
> before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
> husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew conventional
> veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
> I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
> *************************
Sweet peas, the flowery smelly ones, have very small seed pods and are
poisonous.
Mangetout pods are quite flat and have smaller peas than the ordinary peas
which are quite fat and almost cylindrical.
You can eat the pods of both varieties.
Perhaps someone else can tell you how to distinguish the three just by the
leaf pattern/growth habit.
Posted by shazzbat on July 11, 2006, 5:15 am
> Here I am standing in the vegetable garden. I have lost tons of labels and
> I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is the
> peas.
> I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
> "early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
> grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
> which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to eat
> the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of the
> other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
> before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
> husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew conventional
> veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
> I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
> *************************
I know it's a bit late now for this year, but for future reference, you have
the ideal tool to avoid this happening again. It's called a computer. I have
made an excel document, and as a page of it has approximately the same
proportions as my allotment, I use the rows and cells to record what I plant
and sow where, print it out, take it to the allotment, write in what I
add/remove, and update it when I get home. Easy.
HTH
Steve
Posted by Welsh Witch on July 11, 2006, 6:26 am
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:15:36 +0100, shazzbat wrote:
>
>> Here I am standing in the vegetable garden. I have lost tons of labels and
>> I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is the
>> peas.
>> I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
>> "early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
>> grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
>> which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to eat
>> the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of the
>> other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
>> before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
>> husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew conventional
>> veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
>> I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
>> *************************
>
> I know it's a bit late now for this year, but for future reference, you have
> the ideal tool to avoid this happening again. It's called a computer. I have
> made an excel document, and as a page of it has approximately the same
> proportions as my allotment, I use the rows and cells to record what I plant
> and sow where, print it out, take it to the allotment, write in what I
> add/remove, and update it when I get home. Easy.
>
> HTH
>
> Steve
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Thank you both so much... That's a good idea re the planning document. I
have taken various photos but by then...I had forgotten.
I had a super labeller that punched out the letters made by Brother, but
when I ran out of tape there was no replacement tape so that's in the bin!
Vegetables seems so much more complicated a job than flowers which I'm
very used to. You seem to have to indulge in marathon eating time.
I am going to freeze lots of things..Next to the problem of the melons on
which there are loads of flowers I think I'll shut my eyes for a while:-(
Thanks again
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Posted by Mary Fisher on July 11, 2006, 7:46 am
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>>
> I had a super labeller that punched out the letters made by Brother, but
> when I ran out of tape there was no replacement tape so that's in the bin!
> Vegetables seems so much more complicated a job than flowers which I'm
> very used to.
Too late for you now but I've just come in from marking some plants, lilies
as it happens but I'll use the same system on veg from now on.
I cut some strips of white plastic from yogurt pots and wrote the
information in CD writers (Spouse got them very cheaply from Lidl yeterday).
Then with a paper punch I made a hole towards one end of the strip, threaded
a plant tie through the hole and attached it to the stem. So easy!
This could be done at planting out time or, if outdoor sown, when the plants
are big enough and before the markers which of course you put at least at
the end of each row have worked their way out of the soil.
> You seem to have to indulge in marathon eating time.
Yes, it's wonderful!
> I am going to freeze lots of things..
I prefer to eat as many veggies as possible when they're cut, dug or picked
from the garden. Freezing is a last resort and I do like to have seasonal
veg so grow things for year round harvesting. Our little garden won't supply
all our needs, we're greedy about veg, but it's the best we can do. We
really don't like frozen runner beans but love them fresh so we have them
day after day when they're ready and never bore of them, after all, they
have such a short season and we don't buy them.
A lot of the ground this year is given over to tomatoes, I wish I'd marked
those plants because there are at least seven different types. It would be
useful to know which are the best for what we want. And they will freeze
perfectly well for use in cooking.
The computer solution, for me, would be a no-no. I couldn't remember the
details between garden and pc and it does sound complicated. I try to record
things in a book but that's not perfect either.
I'm only human :-(
Mary
> I have enormous brassica plants on one hand but my present problem is the
> peas.
> I know I planted both the mangetout type and the ordinary I think called
> "early onward". Now there are peas everywhere including sweet peas I
> grew on the cage. Is there any way of telling which are mange tout and
> which are real peas. I can't imagine it would be poisonous were we to eat
> the pods of ordinary peas(?) but I don;t want to deprive the family of the
> other sort either. What a mess...I haven't done the vegetable garden
> before as my responsibility, and the vegetables I choose to grow my
> husband has never grown to give his advice!! He always grew conventional
> veg, I've got lots of stir fry etc
> I'd be very grateful of anyone can tell me which is which. Thanks W
> *************************