Posted by Marq on March 6, 2010, 10:15 am
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> I just bought a Ph tester that you stick into the ground. It was about
> £5 from ebay, and seems to be doing the job nicely. Much easier than a
> kit, you just stick the probe into moist soil and read a dial on a
> gauge.
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Thanks,
I did a search and Aldi are having them instore from Sunday, and I am gonna
grab one at £3.99
Anyone interested see link below:
www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2827_13281.htm?WT.mc_id 10-03-05-11-02
I will also buy a conventional tester to see how closely they are to each
others results.
Am I right in thinking that Ph will differ year to year depending on how I
treat the soil with organic matter I add?
Or am I wasting money as I tend to go overboard with a new project to try
and learn everything at once ->run before walking.
Another one here:
On one of my plots where I am going to sow peas and a few brassicas, it was
at the edge of a lawn and I turned the grass upsideside down last autumn.
Should I remove the sods or just get a nice tilth on the upper 2-4" and
hope for the best.(brassicas will be plants peas will be seed)
Many questions,
Marq.
Posted by Bob Hobden on March 6, 2010, 10:30 am
"Marq" wrote
> Am I right in thinking that Ph will differ year to year depending on how I
> treat the soil with organic matter I add?
That is correct and don't forget the acid rain.
> Another one here:
> On one of my plots where I am going to sow peas and a few brassicas, it
> was
> at the edge of a lawn and I turned the grass upsideside down last autumn.
> Should I remove the sods or just get a nice tilth on the upper 2-4" and
> hope for the best.(brassicas will be plants peas will be seed)
I know all brassicas like firm ground but personally I've always properly
dug where brassicas and peas are to be planted, the brassicas will probably
need some lime added to the soil anyway to bring the pH slightly above 7
(neutral). Peas are not that fussy with the pH IME.
I would remove the sods and stack them for more rotting and dig your plot
properly, adding some good well rotted farmyard manure (no straw showing) if
you can get hold of some.
You may have a few ground pest problems the first year if the plot was
recently grass but it will go away after that.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK
Posted by Marq on March 6, 2010, 11:26 am
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>
> "Marq" wrote
>> Am I right in thinking that Ph will differ year to year depending on
>> how I treat the soil with organic matter I add?
>
> That is correct and don't forget the acid rain.
>
>> Another one here:
>> On one of my plots where I am going to sow peas and a few brassicas,
>> it was
>> at the edge of a lawn and I turned the grass upsideside down last
>> autumn.
>>
>> Should I remove the sods or just get a nice tilth on the upper 2-4"
>> and hope for the best.(brassicas will be plants peas will be seed)
>>
> I know all brassicas like firm ground but personally I've always
> properly dug where brassicas and peas are to be planted, the brassicas
> will probably need some lime added to the soil anyway to bring the pH
> slightly above 7 (neutral). Peas are not that fussy with the pH IME.
> I would remove the sods and stack them for more rotting and dig your
> plot properly, adding some good well rotted farmyard manure (no straw
> showing) if you can get hold of some.
> You may have a few ground pest problems the first year if the plot was
> recently grass but it will go away after that.
>
Thanks Bob.
I have planned my veg garden and did not even think about storing the sods,
much to my ignorance.
Would it be so bad of me to get rid of the sods into my "brown" bin or as
you suggest store them, I think I can find a corner if I HAD to.
With limited space it is getting a bit awkward.
I planned my veg plots in an "ideal world" and it is becomming less ideal
as I learn!. but I did not know that when it was on the drawing board!
When my daughter is old enough to eat solids she will have the best.
Best wishes
Marq
Posted by Bob Hobden on March 5, 2010, 7:46 am
"Marq" wrote ((Snip))
> I know what you mean about not being too hasty when planting, that put me
> off growing veg at my first attempt a few years ago, but I am older and
> wiser(?) and more patient now.
> I think I get the gist, so for my carrots, parsnips, brassicas etc. just
> the top 2" and spuds maybe 4-6"?
You will be banking the spuds so not worth forking it in.
> Can I go onto bonemeal subject?
> My Dad always sprinkled it in the "V" to sow carrots, and we never went
> short of them.
> On the box I have it says "only to be used where there is a recognised
> need"
> Can I use this as much as I want or will it restrict or kill?
> Should I get a Ph kit (though the results may be too scientific for me)
> I really want to make a success of this but maybe I am reading TOO much
> about it?
A Ph kit or Probe is very useful, and whilst most veg are not too fussy, you
may find, as I did, that your Ph is way below neutral such that we can
actually grow Blueberries in the ground. So we use about 40Kg of Lime per
year on our Brassica bed which follow the spuds and loads of manure in our 4
year rotation.
Bonemeal, I've never used except when planting trees/shrubs.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK
Posted by Christina Websell on March 6, 2010, 1:19 pm
> Thanks for reading.
> Just bought some Growmore and it says on the box to "fork in well" to
> prepare a veg plot.
> I admit I'm not the sharpest, but does that mean the full depth of a fork
> or just a couple of inches?
> I dug loads of places in my new house last autumn to grow veg, and now I
> can't wait to do the sowing etc.
It means chuck it on top of the soil and use your fork to stir it in by
poking and stirring for a few inches down.
Don't worry too much.
Tina
> I just bought a Ph tester that you stick into the ground. It was about
> £5 from ebay, and seems to be doing the job nicely. Much easier than a
> kit, you just stick the probe into moist soil and read a dial on a
> gauge.
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