Posted by Zarch on October 1, 2007, 3:34 am
Hi all,
Would right now be a good time to buy and plant an Acer Palmatum?
Something
like a 'Sango-kaku'?
If yes, i'll get off the garden centre to get one as i really like
them.
Also, any tips about planting them? ie anything special i should do in
the hole?
Many thanks
Mick
Sheffield
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Zarch
Posted by Emery Davis on October 1, 2007, 6:33 am
On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:34:03 +0100
>
> Hi all,
>
> Would right now be a good time to buy and plant an Acer Palmatum?
> Something like a 'Sango-kaku'?
>
Buy, yes. Plant, no. Wait until the tree is dormant. If you have any
questions about winter drainage at all, wait until spring. If the roots
stay wet over winter, there is every chance it will die.
> If yes, i'll get off the garden centre to get one as i really like
> them.
Get the largest plant you can afford (within reason), the older the graft the
more
chance it will have to take. Also consider getting Eddisbury or Beni kawa. They
both have the red bark of Sango kaku but are much less tricky to grow. Both
have less problems with wet, Eddisbury takes sun better and Beni kawa leafs out
a couple of weeks later, which is convenient if you're in a frost pocket. All
three
can be grown in full sun, but will take a few years to establish.
>
> Also, any tips about planting them? ie anything special i should do in
> the hole?
>
You know it won't grow in chalk. Otherwise not too picky about soil, although
prefers slightly acidic. Don't use much soil amendment in heavy soil, it causes
drainage problems. If you're in heavy clay, the best bet is to build up on top
of
the soil, if you want to keep the tree small (bear in mind Sango kaku is a 12
foot
tree). Otherwise you can certainly grow A. palmatum in clay, but very tough
to establish.
Don't fertilize beyond a little bone meal, you can do a little osmocote the
second year.
Good luck. Even experienced maple growers kill scads of these (and
Sango kaku is pretty tricky) so "If at first you don't succeed..." ;)
-E
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Posted by Zarch on October 7, 2007, 5:55 am
Emery Davis;751211 Wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:34:03 +0100
> Zarch Zarch.17659c8@gardenbanter.co.uk wrote:
> -
>
> Hi all,
>
> Would right now be a good time to buy and plant an Acer Palmatum?
> Something like a 'Sango-kaku'?
> -
>
> Buy, yes. Plant, no. Wait until the tree is dormant. If you have
> any
> questions about winter drainage at all, wait until spring. If the
> roots
> stay wet over winter, there is every chance it will die.
> -
> If yes, i'll get off the garden centre to get one as i really like
> them.-
>
> Get the largest plant you can afford (within reason), the older the
> graft
the more
> chance it will have to take. Also consider getting Eddisbury or Beni
> kawa.
They
> both have the red bark of Sango kaku but are much less tricky to grow.
> Both
> have less problems with wet, Eddisbury takes sun better and Beni kawa
> leafs
out
> a couple of weeks later, which is convenient if you're in a frost
> pocket.
All three
> can be grown in full sun, but will take a few years to establish.
> -
>
> Also, any tips about planting them? ie anything special i should do
> in
> the hole?
> -
>
> You know it won't grow in chalk. Otherwise not too picky about soil,
>
although
> prefers slightly acidic. Don't use much soil amendment in heavy soil,
> it
causes
> drainage problems. If you're in heavy clay, the best bet is to build
> up on
top of
> the soil, if you want to keep the tree small (bear in mind Sango kaku
> is a
12 foot
> tree). Otherwise you can certainly grow A. palmatum in clay, but very
> tough
> to establish.
>
> Don't fertilize beyond a little bone meal, you can do a little osmocote
> the
second year.
>
> Good luck. Even experienced maple growers kill scads of these (and
> Sango kaku is pretty tricky) so "If at first you don't succeed..." ;)
>
> -E
> --
> Emery Davis
> You can reply to ibmemeryamazon@ebayadelkadell.applecom
> by removing the well known companies
> Questions about wine? Visit http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com
Emery,
Thank you very much for taking the time to post such a detailed reply.
I will
get upto the garden centre and see what they have.
Many thanks
Mick
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Zarch
Posted by Klara on October 10, 2007, 8:41 am
>You know it won't grow in chalk. Otherwise not too picky about soil,
>although prefers slightly acidic. Don't use much soil amendment in
>heavy soil, it causes drainage problems. If you're in heavy clay, the
>best bet is to build up on top of the soil, if you want to keep the
>tree small (bear in mind Sango kaku is a 12 foot tree). Otherwise you
>can certainly grow A. palmatum in clay, but very tough to establish.
>Don't fertilize beyond a little bone meal, you can do a little osmocote
>the second year.
>Good luck. Even experienced maple growers kill scads of these (and
>Sango kaku is pretty tricky) so "If at first you don't succeed..." ;)
>-E
We were given one for our coral anniversary a couple of years ago, and
in our ignorance have been really successful with it - so far. But I
have just gone out to have a closer look, and most of the bark has been
stripped from it at a level that makes me suspect our cat! Any ideas how
I can bandage it to help it to heal and at the same time keep the cat
from further damaging it?
--
Klara, Gatwick basin
Posted by Stan The Man on October 10, 2007, 9:58 am
>>You know it won't grow in chalk. Otherwise not too picky about soil,
>>although prefers slightly acidic. Don't use much soil amendment in
>>heavy soil, it causes drainage problems. If you're in heavy clay, the
>>best bet is to build up on top of the soil, if you want to keep the
>>tree small (bear in mind Sango kaku is a 12 foot tree). Otherwise you
>>can certainly grow A. palmatum in clay, but very tough to establish.
>>
>>Don't fertilize beyond a little bone meal, you can do a little osmocote
>>the second year.
>>
>>Good luck. Even experienced maple growers kill scads of these (and
>>Sango kaku is pretty tricky) so "If at first you don't succeed..." ;)
>We were given one for our coral anniversary a couple of years ago, and
>in our ignorance have been really successful with it - so far. But I
>have just gone out to have a closer look, and most of the bark has been
>stripped from it at a level that makes me suspect our cat! Any ideas how
>I can bandage it to help it to heal and at the same time keep the cat
>from further damaging it?
Rabbits love sweet young bark and have been the certain cause of young
saplings of mine being stripped back to bare wood from approx 18in high
down to ground level. A low coil of chicken wire should provide
protection.
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> Hi all,
>
> Would right now be a good time to buy and plant an Acer Palmatum?
> Something like a 'Sango-kaku'?
>