Posted by john hamilton on December 13, 2010, 1:08 pm
Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so ago.
http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7
It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
and throwing it away every year.
Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
have not been chopped to put it in a pot).
Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.
Posted by chris French on December 13, 2010, 7:45 pm
>Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so ago.
>http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7
>It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
>every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
>and throwing it away every year.
>Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
>grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
>have not been chopped to put it in a pot).
>Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
>reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.
From that pic it looks like it might be a Nordmann Fir, commonly sold
nowadays as they hang onto their needles better.
Don't know your locale, I'd suspect though that those from the DIY sheds
and garden centre Homebase etc. would be fine, or at least be hionest if
you ask and if you got home and weren't happy with it would refund
exchange.
I'd be rather more wary about buying one from the typical her now gone
in a week type sellers tyhat spring up.
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Chris French
Posted by echinosum on December 14, 2010, 10:44 am
john hamilton;907523 Wrote:
> Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so
> ago.
>
> 'grown in pot Pictures, grown in pot Images, grown in pot Photos, grown
> in pot Videos - Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing &
> Video Hosting' (http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7 )
>
> It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of
> weeks
> every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying
> one
> and throwing it away every year.
>
> Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
> grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
>
> have not been chopped to put it in a pot).
>
> Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in
> a
> reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.
It is clearly a true fir, ie Abies spp. But confidently identifying
conifers to species level on a single shot of the needles, when there
are so many cultivars, is a bit tricky. As earlier poster says, Abies
nordmanniana, 'Abies nordmanniana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
(http://tinyurl.com/y9ztavw ) is the most commonly used true fir for cut
Christmas trees. But part of the reason for that is that it is fast
growing, which is not actually ideal for pot cultivation. Which makes
me wonder whether it might actually be though actually be Abies koreana,
'Abies koreana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
(http://tinyurl.com/24zlyjq ) which is slower growing, or at least slow
growing forms are commonly sold in garden centres. That is what I would
actually recommend you buy for a pot cultivated fir tree, although you
might find other nice slow-growing conifers for pot cultivation in good
plant nurseries. You can also get beautful slow-growing cultivars of
pine species which are suitable for pot cultivation - for example I used
to have a dwarf cultivar of Scots pine which grew to 4 feet in 8 years
and a beautiful shape, but it got destroyed in our house extension.
--
echinosum
Posted by chris French on December 14, 2010, 5:48 pm
>john hamilton;907523 Wrote:
>> Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or
>so
>> ago.
>>
>> 'grown in pot Pictures, grown in pot Images, grown in pot Photos,
>>grown
>>> in pot Videos - Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing
>>
>>> Video Hosting' (http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7 )
>>
>> It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple
>>of
>>> weeks
>> every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves
>>buying
>>> one
>> and throwing it away every year.
>>
>> Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
>> grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
>>>
>> have not been chopped to put it in a pot).
>>
>> Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in
>>> a
>> reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.
>It is clearly a true fir, ie Abies spp. But confidently identifying
>conifers to species level on a single shot of the needles, when there
>are so many cultivars, is a bit tricky. As earlier poster says, Abies
>nordmanniana, 'Abies nordmanniana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
>(http://tinyurl.com/y9ztavw ) is the most commonly used true fir for cut
Christmas trees. But part of the reason for that is that it is fast
growing, which is not actually ideal for pot cultivation.
I don't imagine that will concern most places. They will sell what sells
and is cheap :-)
Certainly the ones in Homebase are labelled as Nordmanns (that might not
be what they are though, who knows), the also had Fraser fir and
'Norwegian Pine'
--
Chris French
Posted by echinosum on December 15, 2010, 6:49 am
chris French;907595 Wrote:
> Certainly the ones in Homebase are labelled as
Nordmanns (that might not
>
> be what they are though, who knows), the also had Fraser fir and
> 'Norwegian Pine'
Having looked again at your picture and compared it with our cut
Nordmann at
home, and some photos of Nordmanns, I'm inclined to the view
that your photo is
not a Nordmann. It just doesn't look right -
Nordmanns seem to have a higher
density of needles that pack into
"cushions". It looks more like the picture of
Fraser fir on Wikipedia.
'Abies fraseri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
(http://tinyurl.com/34nueuj ) But, as I say, identifying these things
exactly
from a photo is a problem. As far as I can tell, it might also
be Silver fir,
which is the "original" Christmas tree 'Abies alba -
Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abies_alba ) among others.
"Norwegian pine" is a funny. Norway spruce 'Picea abies - Wikipedia,
the free
encyclopedia' (http://tinyurl.com/2g9zu5b ) is, of course, the
most common kind
of Christmas Tree in this country. That would be my
first guess for what it is.
The only species of pine which grows
naturally in Norway is Pinus sylvestris,
alias Scots pine. 'Scots Pine -
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_Pine ) Maybe it's a Scots pine they
sourced
from Norway, and were embarrassed about calling it Scots. There
are nice dwarfed
cultivars of Scots pine which would make a lovely
conifer in a pot, if you
didn't mind it being rather small to start
with. Pinus mugo, which is a
naturally dwarf pine that grows at high
altitude in central and SW Europe, would
also be nice - it also comes in
many forms and cultivars.
--
echinosum
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>http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7
>It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
>every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
>and throwing it away every year.
>Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
>grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
>have not been chopped to put it in a pot).
>Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
>reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.