Posted by Chris Hogg on April 17, 2011, 2:08 pm
I planted a quince about a year ago, so not yet very big, but it seems
to have suffered over the winter, and is dying back rapidly. However,
there are several vigorous and healthy shoots/suckers coming up from
below soil level close to the stem. Are ornamental quinces usually
grafted, in which case the suckers won't be true to the original, or
is it likely that I'll still end up with what I planted? I've had a
gentle poke around the base to see if I can see a graft, but nothing
obvious, although I didn't want to explore too far for fear of
damaging the new shoots.
--
Chris
Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea.
Mild, but very exposed to salt gales
Posted by nmm1 on April 17, 2011, 3:13 pm
>I planted a quince about a year ago, so not yet very big, but it seems
>to have suffered over the winter, and is dying back rapidly. However,
>there are several vigorous and healthy shoots/suckers coming up from
>below soil level close to the stem. Are ornamental quinces usually
>grafted, in which case the suckers won't be true to the original, or
>is it likely that I'll still end up with what I planted? I've had a
>gentle poke around the base to see if I can see a graft, but nothing
>obvious, although I didn't want to explore too far for fear of
>damaging the new shoots.
Don't confuse Cydonia with Chaenomeles. The former (the true
quince) is a tree, and may be grafted. The latter is a true
shrub and I have never heard of it being grafted. I suggest
cutting out any dead or dying shoots hard, as they may have
fireblight.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Posted by Charlie Pridham on April 18, 2011, 7:46 am
says...
> I planted a quince about a year ago, so not yet very big, but it seems
> to have suffered over the winter, and is dying back rapidly. However,
> there are several vigorous and healthy shoots/suckers coming up from
> below soil level close to the stem. Are ornamental quinces usually
> grafted, in which case the suckers won't be true to the original, or
> is it likely that I'll still end up with what I planted? I've had a
> gentle poke around the base to see if I can see a graft, but nothing
> obvious, although I didn't want to explore too far for fear of
> damaging the new shoots.
>
>
Chris, I have never come across grafted Chaenomeles, some Cydonia are
grafted onto Cydonia seedling stock if they are named varieties but I
have never understood why as they are very easy from cuttings.
Odd behaviour from your Japanese quince, they are normally bomb proof
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
Posted by nmm1 on April 18, 2011, 7:08 am
>says...
>> I planted a quince about a year ago, so not yet very big, but it seems
>> to have suffered over the winter, and is dying back rapidly. However,
>> there are several vigorous and healthy shoots/suckers coming up from
>> below soil level close to the stem. Are ornamental quinces usually
>> grafted, in which case the suckers won't be true to the original, or
>> is it likely that I'll still end up with what I planted? I've had a
>> gentle poke around the base to see if I can see a graft, but nothing
>> obvious, although I didn't want to explore too far for fear of
>> damaging the new shoots.
>>
>Chris, I have never come across grafted Chaenomeles, some Cydonia are
>grafted onto Cydonia seedling stock if they are named varieties but I
>have never understood why as they are very easy from cuttings.
>Odd behaviour from your Japanese quince, they are normally bomb proof
I have had stems die back quite a lot, but merely cutting them out
and letting the new ones take over has always worked. I don't know
for certain if it is fireblight, but it has similar symptoms. Many
true shrubs (and Chaenomeles is definitely one) will respond like
that when they get an infection.
In only one case (a "Nivalis") did I think that I was going to lose
the plant, but even it pulled through.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Posted by Chris Hogg on April 18, 2011, 10:14 am
Thanks for the comments. I've cut it down to soil level as far as I
can. Curiously, the wood a few inches above the cut was green, but
where I cut, it was brown and dead, and the bark just peeled away and
was dry and shrunken. I suspect canker, as my RHS encyclo says they're
prone to it. Lets hope the shoots/suckers don't get it.
--
Chris
Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea.
Mild, but very exposed to salt gales
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>to have suffered over the winter, and is dying back rapidly. However,
>there are several vigorous and healthy shoots/suckers coming up from
>below soil level close to the stem. Are ornamental quinces usually
>grafted, in which case the suckers won't be true to the original, or
>is it likely that I'll still end up with what I planted? I've had a
>gentle poke around the base to see if I can see a graft, but nothing
>obvious, although I didn't want to explore too far for fear of
>damaging the new shoots.