Anyone know about Cylinder mowers (Suffolk Punch 35S)

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Posted by Donnie on October 26, 2010, 2:58 pm
 
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Just aquired one at the local auction for a tenner as have always
fancied a cylinder mower so Im going to town on it and already stripped
and cleaned the carb, sorted the loose nuts, made sure there is a spark
and compression :-)

However, the biggest thing I need to suss (other than wondering if the
exhaust needs a decoke) is how to sharpen the blade!

I have already downloaded the manuals for the model from the qualcast
site but of course they relate to the later machines where there is a
"quick cassette" system to remove the cylinder for said sharpening.

However, this older model does not have said system and it looks like
you nearly need to dismantle the whole bottom end to get the cylinder
out!!

The only other option I can see is to sharpen the cylinder blades in
the machine?

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Donnie


Posted by Dave Liquorice on October 26, 2010, 4:07 pm
 On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:58:44 +0100, Donnie wrote:


Against the bottom blade, probably the best option. As I understand
it sharpening a cyliner outside of the machine needs a special jig to
ensure that the cylinder is properly centred and square in relation
to the sharpening tool. Get it only a fraction of centre and it'll
not cut well, off square you might be able to compensate for.

To a certain extent cylinder mowers are self sharpening. What state
are the blades, particulary the bottom one in?

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Cheers
Dave.




Posted by gardenlen on October 26, 2010, 11:52 pm
 g'day donnie,

can't remember now but in my mower mechanic days i did have suffolks
etc sharpened, this needs to be done on a lathe, some of those older
models you maybe have to remove that side of the chassis where the
belts/chains are to get the cylinder out, a little easier on our
homegrown scott bonnar.

check with your local good mower shops some owners of lathes can
sharpen the cylinder while it is still in the mower, just need to
remove the bottom blade assembly, and at sharpening time always
replace the bottom blade and have it surface ground to ensure it is
perfectly even along the whole length, again not sure but might need
to use an impact driver to replace bottom blade?

realy not handyman stuff can get lots wrong and make it cost more find
a good service centre.

the blades (especially bottom one) will stay sharp and wear even if
you set the blades about every hour of work (not the height setting
for cutting) to keep the cylinder blade and bottom blade touching just
right. there is a knack. also stones, doggy bones kids toys very hard
little twigs can all cause blade damage which will bring a good
sharpen undone, there is an art in using these types of mowers.

best people to talk to those who earn their living using these
machines.

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Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
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Posted by Donnie on October 27, 2010, 4:40 am
 harry wrote:


Thanks all for the replies on this as it was doing my head in, even
woke this morning thinking about it!

It does look like the chassis of the mower would literally need
splitting to get the cylinder blades out! and the whole lathe idea,
cost time and effort etc is making it look like too much hassle but
then when Harry mentioned the self sharpening idea I did a quick google
and came up with this and several like it
http://tooltray.com/garden-tools/garden-machinery-spares-%26-maintenance
/blade-%26-chain-sharpeners/1201-cylinder-mower-sharpener-12in.htm?utm_s
ource=Tooltray&utm_medium=Froogle&utm_campaign=Shopping so that may be
an option for me

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Donnie

Posted by gardenlen on October 27, 2010, 2:40 pm
 notsure how effective this will be but give it a go, keep in mind each
blade needs to exact to the next blades, best way i can explain it the
imaginary cylinder must be perfectly round well almost perfect, that's
why the lathe is needed, if this almost pefection is not achieved then
the cut will not be good, they cut like scissors maybe that will help?

if one is a real cylinder mowing fan that is has the best of lawns,
even and all but level, then doing the work or paying to have it done
for you (best option), and then learning how to ge the msot and best
out of the machine and blades is all going to be worth it, if matched
against the price of buying a new machine which still needs the same
expertise to use it.

wrote:

snipped
--

Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"

Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".

len

With peace and brightest of blessings,

"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/