non-fertilizing pre-emergent

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non-fertilizing pre-emergent Chas Hurst 08-06-2007
Posted by Chas Hurst on August 6, 2007, 9:00 pm
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I've got a growing infestation of annual bluegrass (Poa annua L.) and bermuda grass. I
believe the time to apply a pre-emergent is soon here in SE PA. Or am I
wrong?
Is there a pre-emergent available without the fertilizer? I don't want to
put fert on the lawn at this time of the year.
TIA
Chas Hurst



Posted by Eggs Zachtly on August 6, 2007, 10:30 pm
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Chas Hurst said:

> I've got a growing infestation of annual bluegrass (Poa annua L.) and bermuda grass. I
> believe the time to apply a pre-emergent is soon here in SE PA.

Are you expecting a strong crop of winter-weeds?

> Or am I wrong?

I'm pretty sure that's the case.

> Is there a pre-emergent available without the fertilizer?

Why on earth would you want that?

> I don't want to put fert on the lawn at this time of the year.

You probably don't want to put pre-emergent on the lawn at this time of the
year, either.

Think about that word (pre-emergent) for a minute.

Pre (Before. Prior to.) - Emerge (Come out into view, as from concealment.)

It needs to be put down /before/ the weed seeds germinate. That's early in
the Spring, in your neck o' the woods.

--

Eggs

I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to feed it.

Posted by Chas Hurst on August 6, 2007, 11:25 pm
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>
> It needs to be put down /before/ the weed seeds germinate. That's early in
> the Spring, in your neck o' the woods.
>
> --
>
> Eggs

I did this last spring. The results were disappointing. I have read that
some undesirable grasses germinate in the late summer. Are you claiming this
is not so?



Posted by Eggs Zachtly on August 7, 2007, 5:53 am
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Chas Hurst said:

>>
>> It needs to be put down /before/ the weed seeds germinate. That's early in
>> the Spring, in your neck o' the woods.
>>
>
> I did this last spring. The results were disappointing.

If it was the first time you've applied it, you won't get a 100% stoppage
of the weeds. You won't even be close. You also may have put it down late,
after the seeds had already germinated. "Spring" is a pretty big window.

There are literally millions of weed/grass seeds in your soil. As each one
germinates, it pokes a tiny hole in the pre-emergent barrier. Eventually,
an undesireable will get through. Keep applying the pre-emergent at the
proper time, at the proper rate, and in a few years you'll notice a marked
decrease in the undesireables.

> I have read that some undesirable grasses germinate in the late summer.
> Are you claiming this is not so?

Annuals will set seed any chance you give them. But, winter will kill them
off. Putting down a pre-emergent in mid summer will do you *no* good.

--

Eggs

Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

Posted by Steveo on August 7, 2007, 5:55 am
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eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
> Chas Hurst said:
>
> >>
> >> It needs to be put down /before/ the weed seeds germinate. That's
> >> early in the Spring, in your neck o' the woods.
> >>
> >
> > I did this last spring. The results were disappointing.
>
> If it was the first time you've applied it, you won't get a 100% stoppage
> of the weeds. You won't even be close. You also may have put it down
> late, after the seeds had already germinated. "Spring" is a pretty big
> window.
>
> There are literally millions of weed/grass seeds in your soil. As each
> one germinates, it pokes a tiny hole in the pre-emergent barrier.
> Eventually, an undesireable will get through. Keep applying the
> pre-emergent at the proper time, at the proper rate, and in a few years
> you'll notice a marked decrease in the undesireables.
>
> > I have read that some undesirable grasses germinate in the late summer.
> > Are you claiming this is not so?
>
> Annuals will set seed any chance you give them. But, winter will kill
> them off. Putting down a pre-emergent in mid summer will do you *no*
> good.
>
Certain annual grasses are about to germinate again as summer ends.

Now is the approximate time to apply pre-emergent aiming at poa annua
suppression here in N Ohio, timing is everything. It will do *some* good if
applied at the proper time. I've used dimension with some success.

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