Posted by Jim Elbrecht on July 29, 2010, 5:34 pm
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>>
>> Not the OP-- but here's why I want *my* silver maple. It is 150
>> years old & has more character than I can afford to buy. It also
>> shades the back of my house and my patio.
>>
>> It is messy-- it drops limbs, seeds, buds, and leaves during the year.
>>
>> But it also provides a few gallons of sweet maple syrup when the
>> spirit moves me to tap it.
>How long does it take to boil it down, and where do you do it?
Forever- and in my kitchen. I haven't done it since I installed a
humidifier, so the extra humidity has been welcome.
I set it on a slow boil for a couple days-- It doesn't need any
attention until it starts to color up a bit. [Then things can get
tricky fast- I never had problems with boiling 100gallons of sap
adding too much moisture to the house-- but on a couple occasions it
went from syrup to sugar to carbon while I wasn't paying attention.
*That* stinks up the house.]
I probably use one burner on the stove for 12 hours a day for 2-3
weeks to yield 3-4 gallons of syrup & a bit of sugar candy. [wild ass
guesses - I haven't done it in a few years.
Hmmmm- just thought of another use for my new Bayou burner-- I might
do some sap next spring and just finish it in the kitchen.
Jim
Posted by Sum Guy on July 29, 2010, 7:27 pm
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> Not the OP-- but here's why I want *my* silver maple. ...
>
> But it also provides a few gallons of sweet maple syrup when the
> spirit moves me to tap it.
Um - I didn't think that silver maples gave good syrup. That's why
sugar maples are called "sugar maples".
Posted by Jim Elbrecht on July 29, 2010, 8:26 pm
>Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>> Not the OP-- but here's why I want *my* silver maple. ...
>>
>> But it also provides a few gallons of sweet maple syrup when the
>> spirit moves me to tap it.
>Um - I didn't think that silver maples gave good syrup. That's why
>sugar maples are called "sugar maples".
I have 2 sugar maples on the other side of my house. Probably about
the same age as my silver- about 2feet in diameter. [the silver is
3-4] I tapped them a couple years. They gave less sap and it was
not as sweet as the silver.
I've talked to others with the same experience. Sugar maples are
less prone to limb damage and don't have surface roots. But other
than that I don't know why sugarbushes don't use them more.
Jim
[BTW- I've never tapped them, but others have extolled the virtues of
white birch and Box Elder [aka Black Maple] sap.]
Posted by Gary Heston on July 29, 2010, 8:57 pm
>-snip-
>>Silver maple is a garbage tree. The wood is soft because they grow so
>>fast. Surely you've noticed how they break during wind, and how fast those
>>things grow. Why you would want to save the thing is beyond comprehension.
>Not the OP-- but here's why I want *my* silver maple. It is 150
>years old & has more character than I can afford to buy. It also
>shades the back of my house and my patio.
>It is messy-- it drops limbs, seeds, buds, and leaves during the year.
>But it also provides a few gallons of sweet maple syrup when the
>spirit moves me to tap it.
That's a sugar maple. Leaves shaped like the one on the Canadian flag,
with dark grey-brown bark and well-behaved roots (they stay underground).
Silver maples have white bark, leaves are pointed ovals, dark green on
top and silver-white on the bottom, with roots that break the surface
every 2-3 feet.
Sugar maples are good trees; silver maples are not.
Gary
--
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If you want to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
go plant trees.
Posted by Jim Elbrecht on July 30, 2010, 9:01 am
gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>>-snip-
>>>Silver maple is a garbage tree. The wood is soft because they grow so
>>>fast. Surely you've noticed how they break during wind, and how fast those
>>>things grow. Why you would want to save the thing is beyond comprehension.
>>Not the OP-- but here's why I want *my* silver maple. It is 150
>>years old & has more character than I can afford to buy. It also
>>shades the back of my house and my patio.
>>It is messy-- it drops limbs, seeds, buds, and leaves during the year.
>>But it also provides a few gallons of sweet maple syrup when the
>>spirit moves me to tap it.
>That's a sugar maple. Leaves shaped like the one on the Canadian flag,
>with dark grey-brown bark and well-behaved roots (they stay underground).
No. no. no, and definitely don't.
>Silver maples have white bark, leaves are pointed ovals, dark green on
>top and silver-white on the bottom, with roots that break the surface
>every 2-3 feet.
Also known as swamp, river, white, soft, or water maple. The Latin
taxonomy is Acer saccharinum. An argument has been made that
Linnaeus meant for the Silver Maple to be a sugar maple-- it was a
century later that someone named the Eastern US 'sugar' maple.
("The Sugar Maples" by Benjamin Franklin Bush, American Midland
Naturalist, Vol. 12, No. 11 (Sep., 1931), pp. 499-503)
See my other post for my own experience with both species on my
property.
>Sugar maples are good trees; silver maples are not.
There are no bad trees-- just trees that don't please us sometimes.<g>
I am willing to put up with my Silver's foibles in exchange for its
benefits.
Jim
>> Not the OP-- but here's why I want *my* silver maple. It is 150
>> years old & has more character than I can afford to buy. It also
>> shades the back of my house and my patio.
>>
>> It is messy-- it drops limbs, seeds, buds, and leaves during the year.
>>
>> But it also provides a few gallons of sweet maple syrup when the
>> spirit moves me to tap it.
>How long does it take to boil it down, and where do you do it?