Posted by Gary Heston on July 29, 2010, 8:53 pm
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>It is important how, when and where to prune limbs. Improper pruning
>will not allow the tree to heal.
>http://www.gardenguides.com/69432-prune-silver-maple.html
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The proper way to prune a silver maple (much different from red or sugar
maples) is horizontally just above ground level. Then, apply copious
amounts of Roundup or similar herbicide to kill the roots, including
where they break the surface and sprout more silver maples (about every
two or three feet--on each root).
Those roots were a nightmare when cutting the grass; some of the roots
would get high enough to interfere with the mower blade, ocasionally
bending it. I cut mine down within a few years of buying my first house.
The sugar maple which was planted at the same time (1956) is still
growing well. I bought the house in 1979; at that time the silver maple
was about 25' tall, the sugar maple was probably over 40' and now is
at least 60. Sugar and red maples are keepers; silver maples are pretty
(white bark, oval leaves dark green on top and silver-white on the
bottom, hence the name) but incompatible with a lawn or any structures.
I don't miss my silver maple at all. I miss the sugar maple that was
hit by lightning and eventually blown down back in the '90s. The
remaining two are still great trees.
Gary
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If you want to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
go plant trees.
Posted by ransley on July 29, 2010, 6:44 am
> JimR wrote:
> > Using pruning paint is not a recommended procedure because it traps
> > moisture in the cavity and encourages rot, such as you found.
> This was insect-induced rot.
> Moisture could not be trapped - this is a vertical surface we're talking
> about - roughly a circle about 3" diameter.
> Wood protected by oil-based coatings tends to weather better than left
> untreated.
> It's funny how pruning paint is somehow not good for exposed wood, yet
> you see people applying coatings to their decks and other exposed wood
> all the time.
> I've also found that pruning paint is good when applied to the top
> surface of horizontal limbs near the trunk that squirrels tend to tear
> apart - dammage that most people don't see because it's over their
> heads. The squirrels don't find the bark so tasty with the paint.
what insect makes a hole 3"
Posted by Sum Guy on July 29, 2010, 8:54 am
ransley wrote:
> > Moisture could not be trapped - this is a vertical surface we're
> > talking about - roughly a circle about 3" diameter.
>
> what insect makes a hole 3"
The exposed inner heart-wood of the tree has a circular profile and is
3" in diameter, and it oriented vertically with respect to the ground.
This is where a secondary trunk had been, which was cut maybe 2 or 3
years ago.
This circular area was sprayed with pruning paint last year. The
surface was solid and intact at that time. The bark is growing nicely
around the perimiter of this area (this is a silver maple). I have two
such similar cuts on a sugar maple - the exposed area was even larger (4
or 5") and painted them soon after the cut was made. This was about 5
years ago. They are 75% covered over now by the growing bark, and they
remained solid (no rot, holes, fissures developing in them).
Getting back to the silver maple, at some point this year I noticed the
appearance of some cracks or voids on the cut surface along with what
looked like sawdust shavings around the crack. Yesterday I shoved the
plastic dispensing nozzle of a tube of PL Premium deep into the main
crack (it went in all the way - I wasn't expecting that) and I pumped
the crack full of glue.
Posted by jamesgangnc on July 29, 2010, 9:24 am
> ransley wrote:
> > > Moisture could not be trapped - this is a vertical surface we're
> > > talking about - roughly a circle about 3" diameter.
> > what insect makes a hole 3"
> The exposed inner heart-wood of the tree has a circular profile and is
> 3" in diameter, and it oriented vertically with respect to the ground.
> This is where a secondary trunk had been, which was cut maybe 2 or 3
> years ago.
> This circular area was sprayed with pruning paint last year. The
> surface was solid and intact at that time. The bark is growing nicely
> around the perimiter of this area (this is a silver maple). I have two
> such similar cuts on a sugar maple - the exposed area was even larger (4
> or 5") and painted them soon after the cut was made. This was about 5
> years ago. They are 75% covered over now by the growing bark, and they
> remained solid (no rot, holes, fissures developing in them).
> Getting back to the silver maple, at some point this year I noticed the
> appearance of some cracks or voids on the cut surface along with what
> looked like sawdust shavings around the crack. Yesterday I shoved the
> plastic dispensing nozzle of a tube of PL Premium deep into the main
> crack (it went in all the way - I wasn't expecting that) and I pumped
> the crack full of glue.
Seems like that would be ok. It's going to be a weak spot even after
the tree grows over it. But there's nothing you can do about that.
Posted by Jim Elbrecht on July 29, 2010, 6:49 am
>JimR wrote:
>> Using pruning paint is not a recommended procedure because it traps
>> moisture in the cavity and encourages rot, such as you found.
>This was insect-induced rot.
What insect *induces* rot? All the wood eating critters I know
about show up after the wood is dead.
>Moisture could not be trapped - this is a vertical surface we're talking
>about - roughly a circle about 3" diameter.
>Wood protected by oil-based coatings tends to weather better than left
>untreated.
>It's funny how pruning paint is somehow not good for exposed wood, yet
>you see people applying coatings to their decks and other exposed wood
>all the time.
Those decks and stuff are *dead* wood. Presumably you cut the branch
off on a live tree. The tree will bleed and heal the wound much
better without being insulted further by some foreign sealer.
>I've also found that pruning paint is good when applied to the top
>surface of horizontal limbs near the trunk that squirrels tend to tear
>apart - dammage that most people don't see because it's over their
>heads. The squirrels don't find the bark so tasty with the paint.
I prefer to apply lead directly to the squirrels. But I don't think
squirrels do any damage to hollows in trees
Jim
>will not allow the tree to heal.
>http://www.gardenguides.com/69432-prune-silver-maple.html