Posted by Oscar_Lives on March 30, 2006, 12:11 am
>>I have 2 Ariens ZTRs. One with a Briggs and the other with a Kohler. The
>> Briggs out preforms the Kohler in every condition. Starting, fuel
>> consumption and power.
>>
>> From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley
>>
>> It seems like Green paint is expensive. Forget it and get a Dixie
>> chopper
>>
>>
>> From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley
>>
>>
> How come you settled for an Ariens when you could have gotten a Dixie
> Chopper ?
Or a Gravely or Grasshopper?
Posted by Mel M Kelly on March 30, 2006, 5:26 pm
There was no Dixie Dealer close when I bought and they dodn't make one
small enough to get through my wife's flowers at the time or you can bet
I would have. I have no problems with my Ariens but they are no in the
same class as a Dixie. They make a small model now which will be my next
mower when I need it.
From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley
http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids
Posted by KCnRichmond on March 30, 2006, 7:07 am
I work at HD.. Been there in Garden for 5 yrs. I buy what I DONT see coming
back. I am the one who they call at returns when someone brings something
back. The JD is obviously made by JD and is warranted through JD
exclusively. The Toro, Yard Machine, MTD and Cub Cadet are made by MTD, so
take it anywhere to get repaired. JD is the only "Lawn Tractor" with one
piece frame from front to back, where as everything else is several pieces
bolted together. With that feature alone, the deck and tractor stays level
longer because you don't get the "sag" after a while where you cant keep the
deck level. If you sat on both, Where were your control pedals and what do
you have to do to operate the machines? The brake pedal is in the way over
the motion pedal and you have to shift a lever for fwd/rev and you have to
turn the key back and push a button to cut in reverse on the Toro. JD, not
so much aggravation. The JD is Post delivered by a JD mechanic where as
everything else is assembled by an assembly contractor at HD and Lowes. The
Briggs engine is made to specs by Briggs, for JD and is pressure lubed as
well.
I bought a L-118 last year and I love it. 22 hp Briggs, 42" deck, high back
seat and over-width rear tires to lessen compaction. As for ground engaging
tools: You can "pull" anything you want that HD/Lowes stocks. Even a special
order 46" pusher blade or a power 42" snow thrower on JD, Toro, and Cub
Cadet. Ground engaging means pull behind plows, tillers.
As for the decks, ease of removal, hidden baffles clogging up, belt/blade
replacement, and finish add up to a good look. The JD is better. Ability to
rebuild the front end, battery maintenance, grease points, and who will come
to your house to repair are things to consider.
Anyway , good hunting, but at my store we promote the "Drive-before-you-buy"
aspect. Ask to drive first. That is one thing I do see at returns.."I didn't
know it wouldn't do whatever so I don't want it". Well now you're screwed
because before you get a refund we have to send it out for repair to see if
you damaged it, and well, you know the cuss-fest that comes with that...
But above all else, cutting grass should be fun!
Posted by Srgnt Billko on March 30, 2006, 1:16 pm
>I work at HD.. Been there in Garden for 5 yrs. I buy what I DONT see coming
> back. I am the one who they call at returns when someone brings something
> back. The JD is obviously made by JD and is warranted through JD
> exclusively.
Well said - but I heard the same thing from our local HD a couple years ago
about a Scotts machine.
>The Toro, Yard Machine, MTD and Cub Cadet are made by MTD, so
> take it anywhere to get repaired. JD is the only "Lawn Tractor"
See "ground engaging" commenys below
>. The
> Briggs engine is made to specs by Briggs, for JD and is pressure lubed as
> well.
The JD site does not list "pressure lubed" in their specs. But they do
imply there are different engines in the HD version and the dealer version.
>. As for ground engaging
> tools: You can "pull" anything you want that HD/Lowes stocks. Even a
> special
> order 46" pusher blade or a power 42" snow thrower on JD, Toro, and Cub
> Cadet. Ground engaging means pull behind plows, tillers.
Exactly - and I specified "ground engaging" - ie **pull behind** plows,
tillers.
Picky - but you don't *pull* a pusher blade or snowthrower. And since this
is just an over-powered *lawn* tractor (rather than a garden tractor), the
blades and snowthrowers don't attach the same way they do to a *garden*
tractor.. Aside from that, the original poster indicated he was just
looking to mow his lawn.
> As for the decks, ease of removal, hidden baffles clogging up, belt/blade
> replacement, and finish add up to a good look. The JD is better.
Can't say about the new ones, but I have an older JD an a few older WH's and
the removal, replacement aspects are about equal.
<snipped liberally>
> But above all else, cutting grass should be fun!
>> Briggs out preforms the Kohler in every condition. Starting, fuel
>> consumption and power.
>>
>> From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley
>>
>> It seems like Green paint is expensive. Forget it and get a Dixie
>> chopper
>>
>>
>> From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley
>>
>>
> How come you settled for an Ariens when you could have gotten a Dixie
> Chopper ?