Posted by trader4 on February 12, 2010, 3:40 pm
> to make it abit cheaper then we sometimes just kill the old grass/weeds
> with spray (gallup 360) wait till it dies off then rotorvate it , rake
> aera out
And how much back braking work is it to rake out clumps of dead turf
after it's all rototilled into one big mess? Geez, why does everyone
want to do it the hard way?
>and re seed if you want a good job on your lawn you really cant
> try to do it to cheaply
> --
> 4x4rob
I've re-seeded dozens of lawns by using glyphosate (Roundup), waiting
about 2 weeks until it's all dead, then mowing short, raking up the
debris, then using a slit seeder to apply the seed. Worked every
time, no fuss, no muss.
I can see tilling the whole thing up IF the soil is poor and you want
to add amendments. But for a lawn where the existing topsoil is OK,
the above procedure is effective, easy, and cheap.
Posted by Eggs Zachtly on February 10, 2010, 8:14 pm
Bob F said:
> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>>> use a turf cutter to remove old turf if the ground is good enough
>>> then if your left with a load of stones use a stone burier or if not
>>> just use a stone raker / standard landscape rake (size permitting)
>>> then you could use a seeder roller machine to get a good finish .
>>>
>>> --
>>> 4x4rob
>>
>> Which is one hell of a lot of work and cost compared to applying
>> glyphosate and using a slit seeder. Glyphosate is routinely used on
>> food crops, so I don't see the big deal in using it for a one time
>> lawn renovation.
>
> I sure as hell don't use it on my food crops.
Ever buy fresh corn at the grocery store?
--
Eggs
It's not an optical illusion. It just looks like one.
Posted by Bob F on February 15, 2010, 8:57 pm
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> Bob F said:
>> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> use a turf cutter to remove old turf if the ground is good enough
>>>> then if your left with a load of stones use a stone burier or if
>>>> not just use a stone raker / standard landscape rake (size
>>>> permitting) then you could use a seeder roller machine to get a
>>>> good finish .
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 4x4rob
>>>
>>> Which is one hell of a lot of work and cost compared to applying
>>> glyphosate and using a slit seeder. Glyphosate is routinely used on
>>> food crops, so I don't see the big deal in using it for a one time
>>> lawn renovation.
>>
>> I sure as hell don't use it on my food crops.
> Ever buy fresh corn at the grocery store?
Rarely. But it would be idiocy to use glyphosate on my home garden if I care,
wouldn't it?
Posted by Eggs Zachtly on February 17, 2010, 5:09 pm
Bob F said:
> Eggs Zachtly wrote:
>> Bob F said:
>>
>>> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> use a turf cutter to remove old turf if the ground is good enough
>>>>> then if your left with a load of stones use a stone burier or if
>>>>> not just use a stone raker / standard landscape rake (size
>>>>> permitting) then you could use a seeder roller machine to get a
>>>>> good finish .
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 4x4rob
>>>>
>>>> Which is one hell of a lot of work and cost compared to applying
>>>> glyphosate and using a slit seeder. Glyphosate is routinely used on
>>>> food crops, so I don't see the big deal in using it for a one time
>>>> lawn renovation.
>>>
>>> I sure as hell don't use it on my food crops.
>>
>> Ever buy fresh corn at the grocery store?
>
> Rarely. But it would be idiocy to use glyphosate on my home garden if I care,
> wouldn't it?
Are you, yourself, made of plant material? It's a serious question man, not a
smart-assed answer. It's all got to do with how glyphosate works. It won't hurt
you, unless you're actually a plant. =)
As long as the plants you're growing are "glyphosate-ready" (and there's a
shit-load of them available), and you spray on a calm day and/or protect your
other crops from overspray, it'd be just fine to use it in your home garden.
Pulling weeds from a dense block of corn sucks. It makes it a helluva lot
easier.
--
Eggs
A hen is an egg's way of making another egg.
Posted by Bob F on March 17, 2010, 4:04 pm
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> Bob F said:
>> Eggs Zachtly wrote:
>>> Bob F said:
>>>
>>>> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> use a turf cutter to remove old turf if the ground is good enough
>>>>>> then if your left with a load of stones use a stone burier or if
>>>>>> not just use a stone raker / standard landscape rake (size
>>>>>> permitting) then you could use a seeder roller machine to get a
>>>>>> good finish .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 4x4rob
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is one hell of a lot of work and cost compared to applying
>>>>> glyphosate and using a slit seeder. Glyphosate is routinely used
>>>>> on food crops, so I don't see the big deal in using it for a one
>>>>> time lawn renovation.
>>>>
>>>> I sure as hell don't use it on my food crops.
>>>
>>> Ever buy fresh corn at the grocery store?
>>
>> Rarely. But it would be idiocy to use glyphosate on my home garden
>> if I care, wouldn't it?
> Are you, yourself, made of plant material? It's a serious question
> man, not a smart-assed answer. It's all got to do with how glyphosate
> works. It won't hurt you, unless you're actually a plant. =)
> As long as the plants you're growing are "glyphosate-ready" (and
> there's a shit-load of them available), and you spray on a calm day
> and/or protect your other crops from overspray, it'd be just fine to
> use it in your home garden. Pulling weeds from a dense block of corn
> sucks. It makes it a helluva lot easier.
Since you believe all the claims of the manufacturer, go ahead and drink it up.
I'll pass.
Pulling weeds takes little time in a properly maintained garden.
> with spray (gallup 360) wait till it dies off then rotorvate it , rake
> aera out