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Posted by trader4 on May 5, 2006, 8:41 am
 
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Jonny wrote:

I agree with Steveo here.  If a landscaper can only kill one type of
weed in a parking lot with an application of weed killer, I'd find a
new landscaper.     Herbicides like Roundup kill a very broad range of
vegetation, are easy to use, and very effective.






A lot depends on the concentration of the herbicide.  If you're
treating a large area, you typically use a mix strong enough to kill
just about anything that is there.  However, it's not unusual to find
some weeds that are tougher to kill or areas where the spray was not
perfectly applied due to wind, etc.   So, having to do a second pass 2
weeks later to get a few remaining weeds that have not been fully
killed is not unusual.




Have you ever tried to rake after tilling two foot high weeds and
grass?  Tilling it won't kill it all.  You now have clumps of crap,
lots of weeds/grass still growing, and it's a real back braking  mess.


Throw some sod on top



Posted by Jonny on May 6, 2006, 11:04 am
 
The plastic container with commercial label said "Roundup" on it.  That's
what I saw.  It just killed the Johnson grass.


Landscaper generally drowned the perimeter.  This is what I saw.

I don't use herbicides period, myself.


Thought the OP would throw some common sense in, and wack the weeds first.
Rake, then till.  At least that's what I intended.  Don't think you like me,
taking potshots.

Initial good soil prep is backbreaking.  But, worth it in the long run.
--
Jonny


Posted by trader4 on May 6, 2006, 4:14 pm
 
Jonny wrote:

So, the guy killing weeds in a parking lot was spraying it righto out
of container that said Roundup?    That doesn;t sound right.  And if
all it killed was Johnson grass, then he was ripping you off, as
Roundup is very effective against a broad spectrum of vegetation.



Yes, we can see that.



I'm not taking pot shots, just pointing out that if he followed your
advice, he's in for a lot of unecessary work and it's not going to kill
many of the weeds.




 Initial good soil prep is backbreaking.  But, worth it in the long
run.



It's worth it, but it doesn't have to be backbreaking, if you know what
you're doing.








Posted by richthesparky on May 8, 2006, 7:24 am
 
Hello

Cheers for replys people.

So,its RoundUp (strongest recommended concentration),reapply t
stubborn ones,roto it over when their dead,rake out all the debris,pu
the turf (sods) over it and water well.(oh...and keep me finger
crossed)

About right ?

Many thank for above (and further) advice.

Rich

--
richthesparky

Posted by trader4 on May 9, 2006, 6:05 pm
 
richthesparky wrote:

If it were me, I wouldn't till it up.  Tilling is fine, it's the raking
that's gonna kill you.  If you never tried to do this, its a real mess.
 You will have clumps of weeds, grass, etc that isn't easy to just
rake, cause it's all mixed in.

You said the area was a previous garden.  I would go with seed instead
of sod and follow the advice I gave previously using a slice seedier.
 The remaining dead mowed weeds/grass clippings will provide a light
mulch to help keep the grass seed moist.     You'll save a lot of money
and a lot of work.  If you want to do sod, then, yes the steps you have
above are what u need to do.