Posted by JimR on February 7, 2007, 10:25 pm
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I've never planted a lawn before and I'm getting overwhelmed at the
>> information at Home Depot's books and online. I have questions that I
>> need answered before I get started. I don't have a big budget, I
>> don't have time, I don't want to do it and I want to make my wife
>> happy so please help me! I need to lay this out and maybe seed it in
>> a weekend--maybe two--SOON!
> [snip].
> After the grass (and weeds) start growing good, hit them with a Weed n
> Feed.
1. If you need some quick results and can afford it, go with sod, and have
a local nursery or sod dealer (not a big box store) help you decide which
variety to use. If you can't afford sod and can afford to wait for a few
months, seed is a second-best choice. A previous post recommended St.
Augustine grass as one choice but didn't mention that you can't buy St.
Augustine seed -- it's a sterile hybrid. If St. Augustine grass is the
prefered lawn you'll have to go with sod.
2. Most professionals don't recommend weed-and-feed. That's essentially an
indiscriminate use of a pesticide, and if your lawn is that bad you should
just kill off all the weeds and start over. Also, the fertilizer in a
weed-and-feed is a high nitrogen water soluble type that isn't the best
choice for a good/healthy lawn. (The high nitrogen is needed to combat the
effects of the weed-killer, but also induces leaf growth at the expense of
root strength. This in turn makes the grass more attractive to insects,
fungus, etc.) Once you've got a good lawn started, pull or spot treat weeds
and use a lawn fertilizer appropriate for your region, which probably will
have elements in the ratio of 2-0-2 or 2-1-2, with most of the nitrogen
being a slow release type. In my area I use a 17-3-17 Lesco product. Your
extension service or master gardener program can give you written
information on lawn fertilizer requirements.
Posted by Dean on February 8, 2007, 2:03 pm
> Hello everyone!
> I've never planted a lawn before and I'm getting overwhelmed at the
> information at Home Depot's books and online. I have questions that I
> need answered before I get started. I don't have a big budget, I
> don't have time, I don't want to do it and I want to make my wife
> happy so please help me! I need to lay this out and maybe seed it in
> a weekend--maybe two--SOON!
> I have to install two 15' x 15' raised lawn beds in my front yard.
> Because I don't want to deal with weeds or grading, I'm just going to
> install the boxes avove the ground, thrown some plastic on the base
> and level the borders and the soil. them--there, instant level grade!
> They'll be bordered by landscaping timbers or RR ties. Like this...
> +---------------+ +------------------+
> | | rocks | |
> | grass | | more | :-) <--happy wife!!
> | | | grass
> | _o,
> +---------------+ +------------------+ ....husband in the
> desert ---> ==( ((O7O
> even more rocks...retaining wall -->
> ____________________________
> | house |
> My questions are...
> 1. I have soil in my backyard that I can use but it has weed seeds
> all over it. How do I treat it so that I don't get the weeds? Is there
> some kind of super poison?? My wife made the suggestion to let the
> weeds grow and then pick them out--I think there's a better way but
> what?
> 2. can I use potting soil? I know it's a lot but at least it would be
> weed free? Is there another type of lawn soil cheaper than potting
> soil?
> 3. I'm in Southern Ca. what grass seeds do you recommend?
> 4. Despite my limited level or patience and budget, I can't use sod--
> the cost is prohibitive to my interests. Is what I want to do
> realistic?
> Please help! ( it just needs to be done)
> ...help?
> thanks.
> Alex
I'm gonna apologize in advance for this "brainstorm"..
Do You know of a place that is scheduled for construction? Like
digging a basement or maybe just Cat work? Maybe get permission and
get Yer mitts on a sod cutter and cut Yer own..If I remember right
from 20 years ago You can cut any managable lengths and roll it up to
haul..I'll bet dollars to donuts You can get more info,tips n tricks
online..
Dean
Posted by trader4 on February 9, 2007, 8:06 am
> > Hello everyone!
> > I've never planted a lawn before and I'm getting overwhelmed at the
> > information at Home Depot's books and online. I have questions that I
> > need answered before I get started. I don't have a big budget, I
> > don't have time, I don't want to do it and I want to make my wife
> > happy so please help me! I need to lay this out and maybe seed it in
> > a weekend--maybe two--SOON!
> > I have to install two 15' x 15' raised lawn beds in my front yard.
> > Because I don't want to deal with weeds or grading, I'm just going to
> > install the boxes avove the ground, thrown some plastic on the base
> > and level the borders and the soil. them--there, instant level grade!
> > They'll be bordered by landscaping timbers or RR ties. Like this...
> > +---------------+ +------------------+
> > | | rocks | |
> > | grass | | more | :-) <--happy wife!!
> > | | | grass
> > | _o,
> > +---------------+ +------------------+ ....husband in the
> > desert ---> ==( ((O7O
> > even more rocks...retaining wall -->
> > ____________________________
> > | house |
> > My questions are...
> > 1. I have soil in my backyard that I can use but it has weed seeds
> > all over it. How do I treat it so that I don't get the weeds? Is there
> > some kind of super poison?? My wife made the suggestion to let the
> > weeds grow and then pick them out--I think there's a better way but
> > what?
> > 2. can I use potting soil? I know it's a lot but at least it would be
> > weed free? Is there another type of lawn soil cheaper than potting
> > soil?
> > 3. I'm in Southern Ca. what grass seeds do you recommend?
> > 4. Despite my limited level or patience and budget, I can't use sod--
> > the cost is prohibitive to my interests. Is what I want to do
> > realistic?
> > Please help! ( it just needs to be done)
> > ...help?
> > thanks.
> > Alex
> I'm gonna apologize in advance for this "brainstorm"..
> Do You know of a place that is scheduled for construction? Like
> digging a basement or maybe just Cat work? Maybe get permission and
> get Yer mitts on a sod cutter and cut Yer own..If I remember right
> from 20 years ago You can cut any managable lengths and roll it up to
> haul..I'll bet dollars to donuts You can get more info,tips n tricks
> online..
> Dean- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah, that's real practical advice. Most of the construction I see
being built, they start with a nice green lush lawn and then start
excavating.
Posted by Dean on February 9, 2007, 11:15 am
On Feb 9, 7:06 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > > Hello everyone!
> > > I've never planted a lawn before and I'm getting overwhelmed at the
> > > information at Home Depot's books and online. I have questions that I
> > > need answered before I get started. I don't have a big budget, I
> > > don't have time, I don't want to do it and I want to make my wife
> > > happy so please help me! I need to lay this out and maybe seed it in
> > > a weekend--maybe two--SOON!
> > > I have to install two 15' x 15' raised lawn beds in my front yard.
> > > Because I don't want to deal with weeds or grading, I'm just going to
> > > install the boxes avove the ground, thrown some plastic on the base
> > > and level the borders and the soil. them--there, instant level grade!
> > > They'll be bordered by landscaping timbers or RR ties. Like this...
> > > +---------------+ +------------------+
> > > | | rocks | |
> > > | grass | | more | :-) <--happy wife!!
> > > | | | grass
> > > | _o,
> > > +---------------+ +------------------+ ....husband in the
> > > desert ---> ==( ((O7O
> > > even more rocks...retaining wall -->
> > > ____________________________
> > > | house |
> > > My questions are...
> > > 1. I have soil in my backyard that I can use but it has weed seeds
> > > all over it. How do I treat it so that I don't get the weeds? Is there
> > > some kind of super poison?? My wife made the suggestion to let the
> > > weeds grow and then pick them out--I think there's a better way but
> > > what?
> > > 2. can I use potting soil? I know it's a lot but at least it would be
> > > weed free? Is there another type of lawn soil cheaper than potting
> > > soil?
> > > 3. I'm in Southern Ca. what grass seeds do you recommend?
> > > 4. Despite my limited level or patience and budget, I can't use sod--
> > > the cost is prohibitive to my interests. Is what I want to do
> > > realistic?
> > > Please help! ( it just needs to be done)
> > > ...help?
> > > thanks.
> > > Alex
> > I'm gonna apologize in advance for this "brainstorm"..
> > Do You know of a place that is scheduled for construction? Like
> > digging a basement or maybe just Cat work? Maybe get permission and
> > get Yer mitts on a sod cutter and cut Yer own..If I remember right
> > from 20 years ago You can cut any managable lengths and roll it up to
> > haul..I'll bet dollars to donuts You can get more info,tips n tricks
> > online..
> > Dean- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> Yeah, that's real practical advice. Most of the construction I see
> being built, they start with a nice green lush lawn and then start
> excavating.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
I'm pickin up what Yer puttin down..Then I think of all the add-on
garages,sunrooms,swimming pools etc. in the world and figure it's a
possibility at least..Oh well,,,whatever..
Dean
>>
>> I've never planted a lawn before and I'm getting overwhelmed at the
>> information at Home Depot's books and online. I have questions that I
>> need answered before I get started. I don't have a big budget, I
>> don't have time, I don't want to do it and I want to make my wife
>> happy so please help me! I need to lay this out and maybe seed it in
>> a weekend--maybe two--SOON!
> [snip].
> After the grass (and weeds) start growing good, hit them with a Weed n
> Feed.