Posted by jackrmee on June 13, 2011, 10:55 am
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum and also to gardening, but I would like to start
tidying up the place and doing a little something to make the garden
look presentable.
I don't have a large garden and I have never really bothered with it.
Until now, I used to pay a neighbour £5 to strim the lawn every now and
again and that was it.
I hadn't really noticed but the grass was getting worse and worse and
the weeds were becoming more and more, until the was hardly any grass
left.
I decided to sort it out so, without any advice, I bought some grass
seed and skimmed all the top layer off so it was mud, but then I got ill
and before I knew it, it had regrown twice as bad. (I have added a few
pictures of what it's like now). There are huge thistles, mutant dock
leaves, a large sheet of clover type things, some nettles and more. The
only thing I don't have growing there is grass haha.
Ok, thanks for reading my story. Now I would like to ask for some
advice.
I have skimmed the top off again to leave the earth (please see final
photo). I am aware that all the roots are still there.
Should I just use a fork to turn all the soil over and rip up all the
roots, or do also I need to treat it with something before applying
grass seeds? (please bear in mind, I do not have much money spare so I'd
like to do this as cheaply as possible).
I do not have a large area to treat as I want to make a border around
the lawn too.
Thanks
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jackrmee
Posted by jackrmee on June 22, 2011, 4:04 pm
How come no-one is answering? I am in desperate need of some advice.
PLEEEEEEEEASE!!
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Posted by songbird on June 22, 2011, 6:59 pm
jackrmee wrote:
> How come no-one is answering? I am in desperate need of some advice.
> PLEEEEEEEEASE!!
what is there to say, if it is a small
space, just keep spraying glyphosate on
anything green that comes up and eventually
you'll get it all dead. space out your
sprayings by a few weeks and keep it
watered during the dry spells to keep
the weeds from going dormant.
then reseed the surface (but disturb
the soil as little as possible) and keep
it watered as recommended by the seed
company.
trim appropriately and keep it weeded.
some deep rooted plants may keep trying
to come up for several years. spot treat
them or just keep cutting them off as
they grow eventually they give up.
don't bother putting the border and
decorations in right away as it's pretty
likely the weeds will come up through it
anyways.
songbird
Posted by trader4@optonline.net on June 22, 2011, 10:24 pm
> jackrmee wrote:
> > How come no-one is answering? I am in desperate need of some advice.
> > PLEEEEEEEEASE!!
> what is there to say, if it is a small
> space, just keep spraying glyphosate on
> anything green that comes up and eventually
> you'll get it all dead. space out your
> sprayings by a few weeks and keep it
> watered during the dry spells to keep
> the weeds from going dormant.
> then reseed the surface (but disturb
> the soil as little as possible) and keep
> it watered as recommended by the seed
> company.
> trim appropriately and keep it weeded.
> some deep rooted plants may keep trying
> to come up for several years. spot treat
> them or just keep cutting them off as
> they grow eventually they give up.
> don't bother putting the border and
> decorations in right away as it's pretty
> likely the weeds will come up through it
> anyways.
> songbird
For that size space and especially given that you're
moving into summer, I would definitely not be seeding.
If you want to establish turf now, buy sod or whatever
it is you folks in the UK call grass that you buy that
is already green and growing. The best time for
seeding is Fall, when you have declinint temps,
far less competition from weeds, less watering
reqt, etc. You can also do it in early Spring if you
have to, but now is the worst time.
As suggested, kill whatever is there with glyphosate,
(Roundup or equiv and NOT the extended length
product). I'd apply it at 5% which should kill
everything in one shot in about 10 days. Then you
can prep the soil and lay the sod. Testing the soil
for at least PH would be a good idea too.
Posted by Red on June 28, 2011, 6:37 pm
wrote:
> For that size space and especially given that you're
> moving into summer, I would definitely not be seeding.
> If you want to establish turf now, buy sod or whatever
> it is you folks in the UK call grass that you buy that
> is already green and growing. The best time for
> seeding is Fall, when you have declinint temps,
> far less competition from weeds, less watering
> reqt, etc. You can also do it in early Spring if you
> have to, but now is the worst time.
> As suggested, kill whatever is there with glyphosate,
> (Roundup or equiv and NOT the extended length
> product). I'd apply it at 5% which should kill
> everything in one shot in about 10 days. Then you
> can prep the soil and lay the sod. Testing the soil
> for at least PH would be a good idea too.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Agreed, but with one addition: prior to laying sod he needs to "fork
the soil" and rake it smooth so that the new sod has a loose base for
the roots.
The Brits like to inquire in this forum, but to my knowledge I have
never known them to identify their grass type. I assume with their
latitude it's probably fescue of some type. Does fescue come in sod
squares?
> PLEEEEEEEEASE!!