Posted by muzician21 on May 23, 2009, 7:30 pm
Have a B&S on a 70's era Snapper 21" pusher with an aluminum deck. I
believe the engine is probably 10 years newer than the rest of the
mower.
Maybe 10 years ago I took it to a repair shop who installed a solid
state unit to replace the points. Even with the solid state ignition
it was never one-pull start, but as I recall it usually started with
probably 3 - 5 pulls. Now it takes probably 20 pulls or more and
monkeying with the throttle. Once it fires it runs like a clock, runs
up and down the speed range fine. It's also easier to re-start once
it's been running - though still not one pull. Doesn't seem to use an
inordinate amount of oil, no discernible smoke out the exhaust. It
gets what I'd call moderate use. I'm in central Florida so it gets run
bi-weekly or so during the rainy months, not at all during the months
of what passes for a winter down here.
I'm mechanically inclined but not well-versed on the theory of this
kind of engine. I've had it broken down far enough to remove and flush
the gas tank, change the points when it had points, replace the pull
rope. I've change the spark plug of course. I know it should start
much easier than it does. Any suggestions where to look, what to
tweak? There isn't that much to it from what I can see, so it
shouldn't be that difficult. I believe this mower has a lot of life
left in it.
Thanks for all input.
Posted by HLS on May 23, 2009, 7:36 pm
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> Thanks for all input.
Look, I didnt study this as well as I should have.
BS engines with solid state ignition normally start pretty well.
I suspect you might be having fuel delivery problems. I have rebuilt the
"carburetors"
on some BS implements we have here several times.
In these cases, I have to take the fuel tank off, wash it well with water,
and then
carefully dry it. Then, I remove the carburetor, clean it, and put it back
together
with a new diaphragm. This is important. Just a carburetor job is not
enough.
Ignition may have to be followed up as well.
Let us know how you are proceeding. I have had only one BS engine really
disappoint me, and that was because the casting was make of parmesan cheese.
Posted by Joe on May 24, 2009, 11:23 am
>snip<
> I have had only one BS engine really
> disappoint me, and that was because the casting was make of parmesan cheese.
If the engine plant is in Milwaukee, they probably used cheddar.
Joe
Posted by m6onz5a on May 23, 2009, 7:51 pm
> Have a B&S on a 70's era Snapper 21" pusher with an aluminum deck. I
> believe the engine is probably 10 years newer than the rest of the
> mower.
> Maybe 10 years ago I took it to a repair shop who installed a solid
> state unit to replace the points. Even with the solid state ignition
> it was never one-pull start, but as I recall it usually started with
> probably 3 - 5 pulls. Now it takes probably 20 pulls or more and
> monkeying with the throttle. Once it fires it runs like a clock, runs
> up and down the speed range fine. It's also easier to re-start once
> it's been running - though still not one pull. Doesn't seem to use an
> inordinate amount of oil, no discernible smoke out the exhaust. It
> gets what I'd call moderate use. I'm in central Florida so it gets run
> bi-weekly or so during the rainy months, not at all during the months
> of what passes for a winter down here.
> I'm mechanically inclined but not well-versed on the theory of this
> kind of engine. I've had it broken down far enough to remove and flush
> the gas tank, change the points when it had points, replace the pull
> rope. I've change the spark plug of course. I know it should start
> much easier than it does. Any suggestions where to look, what to
> tweak? There isn't that much to it from what I can see, so it
> shouldn't be that difficult. I believe this mower has a lot of life
> left in it.
> Thanks for all input.
try a quirt of starting fluid in the carb. Will it start any faster? I
too think it's a fuel delivery issue if it'll start quicker on the
starting fluid.
Does it have a choke setting?
You can also see if the solid state unit is adjustable. Maybe the gap
is too far apart.
Posted by Vic Smith on May 23, 2009, 8:00 pm
On Sat, 23 May 2009 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT), muzician21
>Have a B&S on a 70's era Snapper 21" pusher with an aluminum deck. I
>believe the engine is probably 10 years newer than the rest of the
>mower.
>Maybe 10 years ago I took it to a repair shop who installed a solid
>state unit to replace the points. Even with the solid state ignition
>it was never one-pull start, but as I recall it usually started with
>probably 3 - 5 pulls. Now it takes probably 20 pulls or more and
>monkeying with the throttle. Once it fires it runs like a clock, runs
>up and down the speed range fine. It's also easier to re-start once
>it's been running - though still not one pull. Doesn't seem to use an
>inordinate amount of oil, no discernible smoke out the exhaust. It
>gets what I'd call moderate use. I'm in central Florida so it gets run
>bi-weekly or so during the rainy months, not at all during the months
>of what passes for a winter down here.
>I'm mechanically inclined but not well-versed on the theory of this
>kind of engine. I've had it broken down far enough to remove and flush
>the gas tank, change the points when it had points, replace the pull
>rope. I've change the spark plug of course. I know it should start
>much easier than it does. Any suggestions where to look, what to
>tweak? There isn't that much to it from what I can see, so it
>shouldn't be that difficult. I believe this mower has a lot of life
>left in it.
>Thanks for all input.
Not familiar with this particular engine, but it sounds like a gas
delivery/mixture problem. Choking can be real critical with these.
This is the first year I've had no problem starting my 2-cycle
weedwacker because I've learned the primer bulb needs to be pumped up
hard, the exact choke setting it likes, and that it has to be unchoked
immediately upon firing. Only took me 5 years, but I've got it
starting in 3 pulls.
I'd start by maybe looking in the carb for wetness, and trying 3 to 5
pulls at different choke settings. But you have to let it dry out
between tries so you're not confusing the issue.
Once you know what works, you're all set. Until it doesn't work any
more.
That's what I like about the Honda I have on my Craftsman.
3 horse I think, 4-cycle.
It starts first pull after sitting all winter. Every time for about 6
years now. Original plug.
And I never drain the gas or use a gas additive on anything.
Not saying don't, just that I don't bother.
--Vic