Posted by Bill who putters on February 17, 2010, 1:25 pm
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> > > You set me off having a hunt too. I knew that sorrel was an indictor of
> > > acidity but not dandelions.
> > >
> > > I found a few interesting sites:
> > > http://www.littlefarmresearch.com/weeds.ivnu
> > >
> > > http://ridgetownhorticulturalsociety.blog.ca/2009/05/27/weeds-as-indicator
> > > s-
> > > of
> > > -soil-conditions-stuart-b-hill-jennifer-ramsay-6185945/
> > >
> > > http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/weeds/WeedsToC.html
> > >
> > > Seems like there is lots of info out there to be found.
> >
> > Thanks Farml for posting your urls of value ! I'll check them out.
> >
> > I do not know what is more difficult. Being a new gardener and not
> > know what to search for or being an experienced gardener and think you
> > know. Sort of scares me how in a way not knowing is proven daily.
> >
> > Still the Andromeda plant broken by the snow continues to show bloom.
> > Pollinators love this plant.
> >
> > <http://www.shadegarden.net/japanese-pieris-japanese-andromeda/>
> >
> > Albert E said soon us we say we know we stop thinking about it.
> >
> > Bill who bought Moonflower, Mexican Sunflower and a very red Morning
> > Glory for the hummers an hour ago.
>
> Either your weather has undergone some dramatic changes, Bill, or the
> above are very powerful amulets against the snow elves.
Double bubble toil and trouble the spirits are about to speak. Are
they friendly spirits? God knows where in my gray matter database that
came from? Not Hamlet most likely junk TV.
Anyway I have been looking at my first born and ........
Bill
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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Posted by Wildbilly on February 17, 2010, 4:41 pm
> In article
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> >
> >
> > > > You set me off having a hunt too. I knew that sorrel was an indictor
> > > > of
> > > > acidity but not dandelions.
> > > >
> > > > I found a few interesting sites:
> > > > http://www.littlefarmresearch.com/weeds.ivnu
> > > >
> > > > http://ridgetownhorticulturalsociety.blog.ca/2009/05/27/weeds-as-indicat
> > > > or
> > > > s-
> > > > of
> > > > -soil-conditions-stuart-b-hill-jennifer-ramsay-6185945/
> > > >
> > > > http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/weeds/WeedsToC.html
> > > >
> > > > Seems like there is lots of info out there to be found.
> > >
> > > Thanks Farml for posting your urls of value ! I'll check them out.
> > >
> > > I do not know what is more difficult. Being a new gardener and not
> > > know what to search for or being an experienced gardener and think you
> > > know. Sort of scares me how in a way not knowing is proven daily.
> > >
> > > Still the Andromeda plant broken by the snow continues to show bloom.
> > > Pollinators love this plant.
> > >
> > > <http://www.shadegarden.net/japanese-pieris-japanese-andromeda/>
> > >
> > > Albert E said soon us we say we know we stop thinking about it.
> > >
> > > Bill who bought Moonflower, Mexican Sunflower and a very red Morning
> > > Glory for the hummers an hour ago.
> >
> > Either your weather has undergone some dramatic changes, Bill, or the
> > above are very powerful amulets against the snow elves.
>
> Double bubble toil and trouble the spirits are about to speak. Are
> they friendly spirits? God knows where in my gray matter database that
> came from? Not Hamlet most likely junk TV.
Sounds more like a cross between Hamlet, and Rocky and Bullwinkle.
>
> Anyway I have been looking at my first born and ........
Ah, you must have a good relationship for your first born to put Spring
in your step. Sadly, others see their first born more as King Lear or
Macbeth. I'm glad that your's is a keeper.
>
> Bill
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Posted by FarmI on February 18, 2010, 2:34 am
>> (snip)
>> You set me off having a hunt too. I knew that sorrel was an indictor of
>> acidity but not dandelions.
>>
>> I found a few interesting sites:
>> http://www.littlefarmresearch.com/weeds.ivnu
>>
>> http://ridgetownhorticulturalsociety.blog.ca/2009/05/27/weeds-as-indicators-of
>> -soil-conditions-stuart-b-hill-jennifer-ramsay-6185945/
>>
>> http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/weeds/WeedsToC.html
>>
>> Seems like there is lots of info out there to be found.
> Thanks Farml for posting your urls of value ! I'll check them out.
> I do not know what is more difficult. Being a new gardener and not
> know what to search for or being an experienced gardener and think you
> know. Sort of scares me how in a way not knowing is proven daily.
LOL. I've always liked the old saying "that the more you learn, the more
you realise that you still have to learn". That applies to most, but not
all, people and especially gardners who mostly seem to know the inate truth
of that.
Posted by Bill who putters on February 17, 2010, 1:18 pm
> >
> > Thread lead me to.
> >
> > <http://www.southernexposure.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?>
>
> (snip)
> You set me off having a hunt too. I knew that sorrel was an indictor of
> acidity but not dandelions.
>
> I found a few interesting sites:
> http://www.littlefarmresearch.com/weeds.ivnu
>
> http://ridgetownhorticulturalsociety.blog.ca/2009/05/27/weeds-as-indicators-of
> -soil-conditions-stuart-b-hill-jennifer-ramsay-6185945/
>
> http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/weeds/WeedsToC.html
>
> Seems like there is lots of info out there to be found.
I have Weeds Guardians of the soil A paper back 1974. God I got some
good stuff buried about.
Bill
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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Posted by kate on February 16, 2010, 9:04 am
wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>>OK I have gotten a lot of responses, and no I am not trying to kill
>>>the planet--I just want to grow some veggies!
>>>
>>>I live in Missouri, and have a lot of crab grass, thistle, and poison
>>>ivy, etc. The garden patch has been extremely difficult to control
>>>the weeds in the past couple of years.
>>>
>>>I have tried mulching, almost 4" in deep across the whole area--does
>>>little if anything to stop weeds.
>>>I have tried black plastic, which seems to stop or slow down the
>>>weeds--but makes everything else that much harder to grow.
>>>I have sprayed repeatedly with RoundUP and everything else they sell
>>>at Lowe's, and actually the only one that worked at all was a no name
>>>brand that did kill the weeds for up to 2 weeks. But they came back.
>>>I have tried burning the whole area, looks ugly for a couple of
>>>months---but weeds came back.
>>>I have crawled around on my hnds and knees pulling all of them out and
>>>removing the roots and all. Still they came back.
>>>
>>>
>>>Gardening should not have to be this difficult. Com'on folks tell the
>>>secret potion I need to fix things so I can have a good garden this
>>>summer.
>>
>> JMO, but I'd say you need to be at peace with the weeds. What you
>> fight, you invite or some other such platitude.
>>
>> Weeding is a constant in gardening. You don't do it once or twice and
>> that's it for the season. It's a daily/weekly/however often you want
>> to do it thing. It's getting on your hands and knees weeding,
>> visiting, tending - being aware of what is growing.
>>
>> mulching is good - cover crops - I grew red clover amidst the tomatoes
>> one year to give the weeds less space to grow.
>Wise words in your response Kate. Your response made me think of that old
>saying: 'The best fertiliser is the footsteps of the gardener'.
Thanks, Farm1. I like your old saying - I haven't heard it before but
certainly true.
>Not all weeds are bad chen. Look at them and wonder why they grow, and why
>they grow where they do. Thistles for example grow where soil needs to be
>repaired. They are what I call 'deep miners' as they (at least the ones I
>know, but yours could be a different species) put down deep tap roots and if
>you pull them up you will find worms snugged in close to the tap root. they
>must be giving something to the worms and I suspect that it is mineral found
>at a much deeper level than earth worms like to go and pulled up into the
>body of the plant by the deep root.
>Creeping grasses are a total bitch though and the only way I have found to
>get rid of them is to paint them with a concentrate of glyphosate using a
>paint brush. I dont' spray it and I keep a very close eye on the spot to
>make sure that if any more emerges, I repaint it as it comes up. I've found
>that it has taken 3 applications of neat glyphosate to get rid of it.
>I don't know what poison ivy is as we don't have it in this country.
>Some general advice I would give is to start very small and to prepare a
>small space well and to learn to manage that first before going the whole
>hog. To make sure there is always some fallow period and to always remove
>weeds before they seed in those beds.
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> > > You set me off having a hunt too. I knew that sorrel was an indictor of
> > > acidity but not dandelions.
> > >
> > > I found a few interesting sites:
> > > http://www.littlefarmresearch.com/weeds.ivnu
> > >
> > > http://ridgetownhorticulturalsociety.blog.ca/2009/05/27/weeds-as-indicator
> > > s-
> > > of
> > > -soil-conditions-stuart-b-hill-jennifer-ramsay-6185945/
> > >
> > > http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/weeds/WeedsToC.html
> > >
> > > Seems like there is lots of info out there to be found.
> >
> > Thanks Farml for posting your urls of value ! I'll check them out.
> >
> > I do not know what is more difficult. Being a new gardener and not
> > know what to search for or being an experienced gardener and think you
> > know. Sort of scares me how in a way not knowing is proven daily.
> >
> > Still the Andromeda plant broken by the snow continues to show bloom.
> > Pollinators love this plant.
> >
> > <http://www.shadegarden.net/japanese-pieris-japanese-andromeda/>
> >
> > Albert E said soon us we say we know we stop thinking about it.
> >
> > Bill who bought Moonflower, Mexican Sunflower and a very red Morning
> > Glory for the hummers an hour ago.
>
> Either your weather has undergone some dramatic changes, Bill, or the
> above are very powerful amulets against the snow elves.