Posted by Ohioguy on January 31, 2010, 10:56 am
I am in a situation where we are buying a new house. It is currently
undergoing roughly $23k in repairs under the FHA 203k rehab loan
program. After they are done, we will move in, probably about the end
of February.
It will begin warming up soon after, so of course I find myself
thinking of what I want garden-wise, if I want to plant some fruit
trees, that sort of thing.
I've always wanted a small lean-to greenhouse, and I've realized that
something like that might be a possibility with this place. The house
is oriented in the long direction north-south, but has a garage on the
south end, with no trees and plenty of light. Space would be tight,
though, because the south edge of the house/garage is only about 12'
from the property line. I'm not sure if I could even put anything
permanent in there large enough to walk around in, but I'm open to
suggestions.
At the very least, I would like to lengthen my gardening season. If
a lean-to greenhouse turns out not to be an option, then I'd like to
mess around with a cold frame there. I've never built a cold frame
before, but I have worked with them at an arboretum.
Can anybody point me to some lean-to greenhouse kits or cold frame
kits that could help me get something along these lines done in a quick
fashion? Thanks!
Posted by Bill who putters on January 31, 2010, 11:15 am
wrote:
> I am in a situation where we are buying a new house. It is currently
> undergoing roughly $23k in repairs under the FHA 203k rehab loan
> program. After they are done, we will move in, probably about the end
> of February.
>
> It will begin warming up soon after, so of course I find myself
> thinking of what I want garden-wise, if I want to plant some fruit
> trees, that sort of thing.
>
> I've always wanted a small lean-to greenhouse, and I've realized that
> something like that might be a possibility with this place. The house
> is oriented in the long direction north-south, but has a garage on the
> south end, with no trees and plenty of light. Space would be tight,
> though, because the south edge of the house/garage is only about 12'
> from the property line. I'm not sure if I could even put anything
> permanent in there large enough to walk around in, but I'm open to
> suggestions.
>
> At the very least, I would like to lengthen my gardening season. If
> a lean-to greenhouse turns out not to be an option, then I'd like to
> mess around with a cold frame there. I've never built a cold frame
> before, but I have worked with them at an arboretum.
>
> Can anybody point me to some lean-to greenhouse kits or cold frame
> kits that could help me get something along these lines done in a quick
> fashion? Thanks!
http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/solar-gh.html
Look at the resources link.
Bill
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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Posted by brooklyn1 on January 31, 2010, 12:47 pm
> I am in a situation where we are buying a new house. It is currently
>undergoing roughly $23k in repairs under the FHA 203k rehab loan
>program. After they are done, we will move in, probably about the end
>of February.
If it needs $23,000.00 in repairs it is NOT a new house.
> It will begin warming up soon after, so of course I find myself
>thinking of what I want garden-wise, if I want to plant some fruit
>trees, that sort of thing.
> I've always wanted a small lean-to greenhouse, and I've realized that
>something like that might be a possibility with this place. The house
>is oriented in the long direction north-south, but has a garage on the
>south end, with no trees and plenty of light. Space would be tight,
>though, because the south edge of the house/garage is only about 12'
>from the property line. I'm not sure if I could even put anything
>permanent in there large enough to walk around in, but I'm open to
>suggestions.
> At the very least, I would like to lengthen my gardening season. If
>a lean-to greenhouse turns out not to be an option, then I'd like to
>mess around with a cold frame there. I've never built a cold frame
>before, but I have worked with them at an arboretum.
> Can anybody point me to some lean-to greenhouse kits or cold frame
>kits that could help me get something along these lines done in a quick
>fashion?
You should check with your Town to find out what the set back code
restrictions are, I doubt you will be permitted to erect any permanent
structure within 12' of your property line (and I can promise your
neighbors will turn you in), and often municipalities will reassess
your property taxes for any additions; an attached greenhouse
constitutes an all season permanent addition (you may be much better
off with a stand alone greenhouse - many people incorporate a
greenhouse with a shed), an attached structure will also increase your
homeowner's insurance. In many municipalities one even needs a permit
to erect a shed, even a fence, most anything. I would also strongly
suggest living there a minimum of one full year before investing in a
greenhouse, or any other major improvement, take time to experience
the lay of the land... you may even decide to move... that you're
purchasing an FHA rehab indicates you are very borderline home
ownership material... before investing any big bucks you should wait
until you know if you can actually afford to live there... if you just
gotta play in the dirt come spring plant a few annuals... you can't
possibly know where to put in a veggie garden until next year let
alone a green house. Have patience
Posted by Ohioguy on February 2, 2010, 10:19 pm
>If it needs $23,000.00 in repairs it is NOT a new house.
Ok, granted, I mean new to us house. It's the same when I get a
'new' pair of shoes - they tend to be ones worn a couple of times, or
never, and taken to the local thrift store because somebody didn't like
the color. It is a 30 year old home that someone neglected - didn't
repair the roof when it needed it, etc.
>that you're purchasing an FHA rehab indicates you are very borderline
>home
Actually, we have our current home 100% paid off, so we have a decent
amount of equity. We are not selling this home to purchase the new one
- prices are very depressed in the area right now, and we would take a
loss. Instead, we are renting it out after we move (20 minutes away),
and using the rent to fund our IRA.
Simply put, the FHA 203k rehab program had a lot of perks that made
it a better deal for us, such as them chipping in up to 2% of the cost
of the home towards closing costs, and several other worthy benefits.
Even with the roughly $23k in repairs, we are paying ~ $35k less than
the house sold for 3 years ago, when it still needed lots of repairs.
Best news: after we closed on the house, it was announced that
Caterpillar is opening a facility with 600 jobs just a mile away. That
can't hurt the value of the house!
Posted by brooklyn1 on February 3, 2010, 3:55 pm
> >If it needs $23,000.00 in repairs it is NOT a new house.
> Ok, granted, I mean new to us house. It's the same when I get a
>'new' pair of shoes - they tend to be ones worn a couple of times, or
>never, and taken to the local thrift store because somebody didn't like
>the color. It is a 30 year old home that someone neglected - didn't
>repair the roof when it needed it, etc.
> >that you're purchasing an FHA rehab indicates you are very borderline
> >home
> Actually, we have our current home 100% paid off, so we have a decent
>amount of equity. We are not selling this home to purchase the new one
Isn't what you are doing illegal... I was under the impression that
the FHA program is for first time home buyers only.
> undergoing roughly $23k in repairs under the FHA 203k rehab loan
> program. After they are done, we will move in, probably about the end
> of February.
>
> It will begin warming up soon after, so of course I find myself
> thinking of what I want garden-wise, if I want to plant some fruit
> trees, that sort of thing.
>
> I've always wanted a small lean-to greenhouse, and I've realized that
> something like that might be a possibility with this place. The house
> is oriented in the long direction north-south, but has a garage on the
> south end, with no trees and plenty of light. Space would be tight,
> though, because the south edge of the house/garage is only about 12'
> from the property line. I'm not sure if I could even put anything
> permanent in there large enough to walk around in, but I'm open to
> suggestions.
>
> At the very least, I would like to lengthen my gardening season. If
> a lean-to greenhouse turns out not to be an option, then I'd like to
> mess around with a cold frame there. I've never built a cold frame
> before, but I have worked with them at an arboretum.
>
> Can anybody point me to some lean-to greenhouse kits or cold frame
> kits that could help me get something along these lines done in a quick
> fashion? Thanks!