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---> Re: help!!! Persephone10-23-2005
Posted by polywogle on October 22, 2005, 12:10 pm
 
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hi


i actually know very little about gardening but my mom and i are i
need of some serious help.

We live in South Africa, which can be a harsh climate for plant
especially in one bed by the swimming pool, there is no way we can ge
anything to grow there because of the heat, do u have any suggestions?

i would also like to know wat sort of small plant would do well in ful
shade all day(if there are any), preferably with flowers.

my mom loves gardening but she unfortunately cannot do much of i
herself lately because her back is so bad, i would like to hel
her(maybe give her a 'present' for christmas) by fixing our garedn up
Please help it would be much appreciated

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polywogle


Posted by Travis on October 22, 2005, 4:19 pm
 polywogle wrote:

Let your mother sit in the shade and direct you to do what she
would do if her back wasn't bad.

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Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5


Posted by Chuckie on October 22, 2005, 8:02 pm
 What exactly are you tring to grow perenials, Annuals, or vegetables.
if you know your grow zone it would easier to tell what and how you
should grow your plants
Chuckie


Posted by Persephone on October 23, 2005, 1:42 pm
 On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:10:34 +0000, polywogle


Mmm...some of the most gorgeous plants and shrubs in our nurseries and
gardens come from South Africa!


Is it the heat, or is it the fumes from the stuff you put in the pool?
Or is there underground leakage of chlorinated water?

It's very nice that you are planning to help  your mother with
gardening.  Sounds like you need to educate yourself on plants,
which can be a fun process, trust me!

To begin with, there are garden books in your neighborhood book
some of which specifically deal with your local climate.

Also in the library, if you can't afford books.

Also, go to your neighorhood plant nursery and ask them
what would work. Take a diagram of your garden; a rough
sketch is good enough.

Try to tell the nursery where the sun hits your garden at
various times of the year.  I realize you haven't been
studying the sun's movements, so this is a good time to start.
Ex:  Do not put shade plants where they will be scorched
by strong Western sun.  But don't put them in total darkness either!

Also, of course, and this is the biggie in our lives: The Web.
Sometimes I think youngsters don't appreciate the incredible
resources available at the click of a mouse.  No need to go to the
library, get help from a reference librarian [1], go through umpty
books, and make copies of needed articles, etc.

[1] Reference librarians are among the GREATEST resources
of any civilized society.  People don't realize the amount
of training that goes into that job.]

So, to identify plants suitable for your area, go to the Web, search
via Google or some other search engine. Input the keywords that appear
in your message:

Example:  [exact location] South Africa.  Small flowering shade
plants.  (BTW - there are not many such; flowering plants usually
require sun.  There is Clivia, which has gorgeous orange flowers;
some Azaleas can manage in part shade

(I'm posting from Southern California Coastal, which is your basic
Mediterranean climate; not too hot; not too cold = ideal!
Only"downside" is a limited rainy season, +- November - March.
But who knows what will happen, what with global warming...!]

Just a quick trip to the Web, since I don't know your exact location,
elicited the name Kirstenbosch National Botanical Garden, Capetown.
You could probably ask them for help/advice/buying plants, or referral
to a Botanical Garden or other resource more suitable for  your
exact location.

OK - this is a a lot of information, but what it adds up to is this:

You need to educate yourself about what plants would do well
in various parts of your garden.  It's FUN!

-

Persephone

Posted by Cereus-validus-........... on October 23, 2005, 10:44 pm
 Sout Africa has the greatest diversity and greatest number of native plant
species than anywhere else on the planet. Many popular garden flowers and
greenhouse plants originate from South Africa.

If you can't find any plants to your liking to grow, you surely haven't been
looking very hard. Check with one of the many botanical gardens in your
country for ideas on which plants to grow in your area.


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