Posted by YMC on October 8, 2008, 7:43 am
Hi,
Its been over 6 months since i posted about my pine mulch problem so I
thought I'd share whats happened since I used the mulch.
Backdrop: I have a dozen conifer pine trees - had them pruned back and
mulched the residue. There was a fair bit of the mulch and I couldn't just
store it in one
location in my garden.
The amount could be roughly about 10 - 20 large compost bins full. And i
only have 2.
So what I did was I stored what I could in my 2 bins. Stored what I could in
the backyard. Then I spread it
around in my garden as best as I could.
The mulch seem to turn into something more useful if its placed into open
piles and turned around every month or so.
The ones in the compost bin looked like they turned kind of sour like -
probably due to a lack of water. I travel a fair bit sometimes and don't get
enough time to do necessary stuff in the garden. So I emptied it out - and
after a very short while - it smelt better - that humus pleasant earthly
kind of smell.
The other stuff which I spread around the garden also seemed to turn up
quite nicely too. No plants died but I was careful not to spread it too
thickly. In the areas where i did spread it thickly, the yellow daisy
marguirites loved it. The earthworms thrived!!
Now comes the second stage - where I have to take the pine mulch in the
storage areas to the rest of the garden. Great time to do it too - as I'm
getting a fair bit of weeds/ grass runners in the flower beds.
ymc
>>I think it's more a case where the pine mulch will make the soil more
>>acidic, whereas a rose prefers a fairly neutral soil around PH 6.5.
>>Probably composting it is the better idea as I hate seeing mulch go to
>>waste.
> Thanks for that. I think the old guy just wanted to discourage me and take
> the mulch away. His quote didn't involve leaving the mulch behind (because
> he claimed it was useless).
> Another tree cutter suggested putting the mulch onto one section of the
> garden which was hidden and let it sit for 4 weeks or so. I've got him to
> do the job as he was more helpful and friendly.
> I'll probably keep the bulk of the mulch in that section of the garden for
> 3 - 12 months or so and put a bit of blood and bone and seaweed mix to
> hurry up the rotting process.
> Thanks all for the advice.
Posted by symplastless on October 8, 2008, 8:17 pm
MULCH
Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html
Two good articles written by Dr. Shigo with respect to mulch.
Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html
Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.
> Hi,
> Its been over 6 months since i posted about my pine mulch problem so I
> thought I'd share whats happened since I used the mulch.
> Backdrop: I have a dozen conifer pine trees - had them pruned back and
> mulched the residue. There was a fair bit of the mulch and I couldn't just
> store it in one
> location in my garden.
> The amount could be roughly about 10 - 20 large compost bins full. And i
> only have 2.
> So what I did was I stored what I could in my 2 bins. Stored what I could
> in the backyard. Then I spread it
> around in my garden as best as I could.
> The mulch seem to turn into something more useful if its placed into open
> piles and turned around every month or so.
> The ones in the compost bin looked like they turned kind of sour like -
> probably due to a lack of water. I travel a fair bit sometimes and don't
> get
> enough time to do necessary stuff in the garden. So I emptied it out - and
> after a very short while - it smelt better - that humus pleasant earthly
> kind of smell.
> The other stuff which I spread around the garden also seemed to turn up
> quite nicely too. No plants died but I was careful not to spread it too
> thickly. In the areas where i did spread it thickly, the yellow daisy
> marguirites loved it. The earthworms thrived!!
> Now comes the second stage - where I have to take the pine mulch in the
> storage areas to the rest of the garden. Great time to do it too - as I'm
> getting a fair bit of weeds/ grass runners in the flower beds.
> ymc
>>>I think it's more a case where the pine mulch will make the soil more
>>>acidic, whereas a rose prefers a fairly neutral soil around PH 6.5.
>>>Probably composting it is the better idea as I hate seeing mulch go to
>>>waste.
>>
>> Thanks for that. I think the old guy just wanted to discourage me and
>> take
>> the mulch away. His quote didn't involve leaving the mulch behind
>> (because
>> he claimed it was useless).
>>
>> Another tree cutter suggested putting the mulch onto one section of the
>> garden which was hidden and let it sit for 4 weeks or so. I've got him to
>> do the job as he was more helpful and friendly.
>>
>> I'll probably keep the bulk of the mulch in that section of the garden
>> for
>> 3 - 12 months or so and put a bit of blood and bone and seaweed mix to
>> hurry up the rotting process.
>>
>> Thanks all for the advice.
>
Posted by D. Staples on October 9, 2008, 12:27 am
> MULCH
Ignore this fool
Posted by symplastless on October 9, 2008, 12:10 pm
>> MULCH
>>
> Ignore this fool
>Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
> http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm
In reality Don Staples claims to be a "consulting forester" while he refuses
to define specifically what that is at his website at:
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm
PLEASE DEFINE WHAT YOU ARE. "CONSULTING FORESTER" YOUR LINK IS DEAD.
@ http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm
Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, that your practice is deforestation. Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation claiming sound
treatment for landowners investment. You claim to be a consulting forester.
Please consult and provide the data for your practice.
--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.
Posted by D. Staples on October 9, 2008, 12:24 pm
symplastless wrote:
>>> MULCH
Bite me, yard boy, you are a liar, a fraud, and a simpleton.
>>acidic, whereas a rose prefers a fairly neutral soil around PH 6.5.
>>Probably composting it is the better idea as I hate seeing mulch go to
>>waste.
> Thanks for that. I think the old guy just wanted to discourage me and take
> the mulch away. His quote didn't involve leaving the mulch behind (because
> he claimed it was useless).
> Another tree cutter suggested putting the mulch onto one section of the
> garden which was hidden and let it sit for 4 weeks or so. I've got him to
> do the job as he was more helpful and friendly.
> I'll probably keep the bulk of the mulch in that section of the garden for
> 3 - 12 months or so and put a bit of blood and bone and seaweed mix to
> hurry up the rotting process.
> Thanks all for the advice.