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Posted by Charlie on March 19, 2009, 8:42 pm
 
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“Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as
hard to sleep after.”  -- Anne Morrow Lindbergh (apropos to this post)

"I'll be back." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger

Catch ya later re: this post.

Charlie






Posted by Bill on March 15, 2009, 6:15 am
 

  Interesting health stuff.


  Bill

"The formulas illustrate a general principle: "A large number of people
exposed to a small risk may generate many more cases than a small number
exposed to a high risk" [34]."

  From

<http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi .1
371%2Fjournal.pmed.0020232&ct=1>

 Larger taste below.

  For example, a hospital with 400 filled beds (H = 400 people) serves a
US population of about 250,000 people. With a five-day average length of
stay (the discharge rate is s = 0.2 per patient per day), the hospital
discharges about 80 patients each day. If we suppose that 20% of
patients acquire resistant bacteria while hospitalized, and one in four
of these patients become carriers (px ? k = 0.05), a hospital would
discharge about four persistently colonized people per day--about 1,460
carriers after one year, or approximately 0.58% of its catchment
population.
A different formula characterizes heterospecific transmission, following
exposure to ARB on contaminated food. We let g denote the daily
per-capita rate that ARB are ingested with a meal. Similarly, we let h
denote the proportion of those ARB populations that survive the gastric
barrier and persistently colonize. The number of new carriers generated
in the community by agricultural antibiotic use in a population of size
N is: ghN. For example, if the average person consumes some ARB in 1% of
meals (g = 0.03 per person per day), followed by colonization with
probability one in 2,000 (h = 0.0005), agricultural antibiotic use would
generate about four new carriers per day in a population of 250,000
people, N, approximately the same number as a hospital.
The formulas illustrate a general principle: "A large number of people
exposed to a small risk may generate many more cases than a small number
exposed to a high risk" [34].

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA





 

Posted by Charlie on March 16, 2009, 1:01 am
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Hmmmm....how very interesting.  You know, perhaps given this
epidemiological data, things may be taken out of the realm of
conspiracy theory and placed into the category of plain fkn stupidity
and greed related....or maybe not.

Too much information, old trout... it's becoming harder to process.  I
think Grandma was right.

but.....I just don't know.

http://www.realitysandwich.com/age_uncertainty

Charlie

"Recently, I have taken as my personal mantra the not very
transcendent phrase, "I don't know." The list of things I feel unsure
about seems to be steadily increasing."  -- Daniel Pinchbeck


Posted by Billy on March 16, 2009, 1:29 pm
 

There's good news today (especially for those who get their news from
Fox News or Nickelodeon. You remember the news don't you? The
information that makes you a good citizen, but that is rarely seen in
news papers or on TV.). You don't even have to be a carnivore to
get your daily dose of antibiotics and antibiotic resistant
bacteria (ARB).

http://www.buffalo.edu/news/6111

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Besides producing the raw material that ends up as the
roast beef or ham on your dinner table, livestock farms also are big
producers of manure. Farmers get rid of manure in an environmentally
responsible way, by turning it into fertilizer for their fields or those
of other farmers.
But deep in those piles of dung lie not just beneficial, organic matter,
but the residues of antibiotics used to promote growth in livestock and
to treat their diseases.
How much of these antibiotics ends up in the environment, and thus could
potentially alter microbial ecosystems in humans, animals and the
environment is the focus of research being conducted by Diana Aga,
Ph.D., assistant professor of chemistry in the University at Buffalo
College of Arts and Sciences. . . .
--

Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is
now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of
conception until death."  - Rachel Carson






Posted by Charlie on March 16, 2009, 1:42 pm
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Charlie