Posted by paghat on October 19, 2004, 5:02 am
Put my ballot in the mail today. In the past I've gotten a bit weirded out
voting before most everyone else, but what needed to be done this time was
so obvious, if galling, that I just did the "all democrats" thing with the
realization that if that doesn't work, things will only get worse, whereas
if it does work, things may merely stay just as bad.
On our ballot the only well-represented third-party is Libertarians. About
two out of every three of their basic ideas aren't all that nutty, but
when they're wrong, hooboy are they off the deep end nuts. If they ever
had an ounce of power they promise to give the national forests away to
big business who will of course be excellent guardians of the resources
for everyone. And the moon is made of cheese. A civil libertarian myself,
it annoys me that the word has become increasingly associated with these
crackpots.
The Greens weren't well represented on the ballot & the Green presidential
candidate is such a screw-loose dipshit anyway; yesterday I heard him
actually promising in his swishy Sylvester lisp, "We will fightth for the
rightth of animalth and plantth." Well good for you buster, but I'm afraid
the plants might outwit you, & by the way, you're embarrassing to
environmentalists. Or how about voting Nader -- that'd be like voting for
a pot of moldy beans & then when you sit down to eat, surprise surprise,
it's still moldy beans. Besides, he still owes me the $20 he stole from
me.
Constitution party? Is there slogan on women's rights still, "Barefoot &
Pregnant & In the Kitchen!" They make crazy-right Bush look like a
moderate. They're such fundamentalist twits with zero sense of history,
talking about some alternate-world wherein founding fathers weren't Deists
& Masons after all, but Baptists, & they're not joking, they really
believe their crap is sweet. The Constitution Party makes me miss the
Northwest Rhinocerous Party which ran on platforms of party hats & moon
colonies & a tiddly-wink in every pot, which made ever so much more
logical sense. So while in past years I've liked to vote for the
occasional third party, this year there wouldn't've been any non-loony
choices anyhow.
-paghat the ratgirl
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Posted by Doug Kanter on October 19, 2004, 10:05 am
> On our ballot the only well-represented third-party is Libertarians. About
> two out of every three of their basic ideas aren't all that nutty, but
> when they're wrong, hooboy are they off the deep end nuts. If they ever
> had an ounce of power they promise to give the national forests away to
> big business who will of course be excellent guardians of the resources
> for everyone. And the moon is made of cheese. A civil libertarian myself,
> it annoys me that the word has become increasingly associated with these
> crackpots.
The LP here (Rochester NY) has a booth at some of the local outdoor
festivals. The following theory came from one of the staff, who I *hope* was
not representative of the mainstream in that party. Ready? Do away with all
tax except sales tax. When I questioned him about which charity would
maintain the roads, he said the users of roads would pay for it. How? Toll
booths. I commented that we already had toll booths on highways like the NY
State Thruway, but I couldn't see how the concept would work on local roads.
He said anything was possible.
He looked young, so I told him that the "right turn on red" thing didn't
exist in many states until the oil crisis of the early 1970s, and was
instituted so less cars would idle uselessly at red lights. I suggested that
toll booths would reverse this concept. He said "Oh well. What can I tell
ya?"
Oh boy.
Posted by Larry Blanchard on October 19, 2004, 12:49 pm
paghatSPAM-ME-NOT@netscape.net says...
> A civil libertarian myself,
> it annoys me that the word has become increasingly associated with these
> crackpots.
>
It helps if we'd remember that all politics is the result of a collision
between two facts.
1. Most people want no laws that would restrict their freedom to do
anything they want.
2. Without laws, and the means to enforce them, people with lots of
smarts and no ethics will own the world.
The current problems result from a third fact. Those people with no
ethics are MAKING the laws! And I include both major parties in that.
To get back on topic, I suggest planting a politician in your garden.
Lots of fertilizer :-).
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Posted by dr-solo on October 19, 2004, 2:24 pm
actually... what ya get is afghanistans and saudia arabias.... a combination of
devolution and muscle. Ingrid
>It helps if we'd remember that all politics is the result of a collision
>between two facts.
>1. Most people want no laws that would restrict their freedom to do
>anything they want.
>2. Without laws, and the means to enforce them, people with lots of
>smarts and no ethics will own the world.
>The current problems result from a third fact. Those people with no
>ethics are MAKING the laws! And I include both major parties in that.
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Posted by escapee on October 19, 2004, 2:55 pm
I had the same thought the other day of voting straight party democrat. I
fluctuate between Bush is going to win and our country will suffer circumstances
we'll never recover from; to Kerry will win in a landslide because of all the
new voters, young voters, etc, who are probably not counted in these idiotic
polls.
The whole shit stinks. The Catholic is passing out booklets telling their
parishioners how to vote according to Christ. Where's my book apologizing for
the thousand priests (give or take) who have been convicted, caught, or indicted
for raping children? Ya, I didn't think so.
v
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:02:21 -0700, paghatSPAM-ME-NOT@netscape.net (paghat)
opined:
>Put my ballot in the mail today. In the past I've gotten a bit weirded out
>voting before most everyone else, but what needed to be done this time was
>so obvious, if galling, that I just did the "all democrats" thing with the
>realization that if that doesn't work, things will only get worse, whereas
>if it does work, things may merely stay just as bad.
>On our ballot the only well-represented third-party is Libertarians. About
>two out of every three of their basic ideas aren't all that nutty, but
>when they're wrong, hooboy are they off the deep end nuts. If they ever
>had an ounce of power they promise to give the national forests away to
>big business who will of course be excellent guardians of the resources
>for everyone. And the moon is made of cheese. A civil libertarian myself,
>it annoys me that the word has become increasingly associated with these
>crackpots.
>The Greens weren't well represented on the ballot & the Green presidential
>candidate is such a screw-loose dipshit anyway; yesterday I heard him
>actually promising in his swishy Sylvester lisp, "We will fightth for the
>rightth of animalth and plantth." Well good for you buster, but I'm afraid
>the plants might outwit you, & by the way, you're embarrassing to
>environmentalists. Or how about voting Nader -- that'd be like voting for
>a pot of moldy beans & then when you sit down to eat, surprise surprise,
>it's still moldy beans. Besides, he still owes me the $20 he stole from
>me.
>Constitution party? Is there slogan on women's rights still, "Barefoot &
>Pregnant & In the Kitchen!" They make crazy-right Bush look like a
>moderate. They're such fundamentalist twits with zero sense of history,
>talking about some alternate-world wherein founding fathers weren't Deists
>& Masons after all, but Baptists, & they're not joking, they really
>believe their crap is sweet. The Constitution Party makes me miss the
>Northwest Rhinocerous Party which ran on platforms of party hats & moon
>colonies & a tiddly-wink in every pot, which made ever so much more
>logical sense. So while in past years I've liked to vote for the
>occasional third party, this year there wouldn't've been any non-loony
>choices anyhow.
>-paghat the ratgirl
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> two out of every three of their basic ideas aren't all that nutty, but
> when they're wrong, hooboy are they off the deep end nuts. If they ever
> had an ounce of power they promise to give the national forests away to
> big business who will of course be excellent guardians of the resources
> for everyone. And the moon is made of cheese. A civil libertarian myself,
> it annoys me that the word has become increasingly associated with these
> crackpots.