This is a serious debatable question about Black Widow spiders

 

Hello, Maddie here (otherwise known by some of the older residents of
this garden neighborhood as the olde madgardener) now that I'm
frantically gardening somewhere in Western Tennessee in a warmer zone,
moister climate, low-lands and farmland abounding.........I have a
very serious question:  I have now encountered my first and not last,
black Widow spider.  I know they're out there. Especially since last
late summer when I was turning over the raised brick garden to plunk
in the few remaining container gardens and perennials, soil and all
into the raised dirt.  The first encounter was the HUGE wench that was
blatently obvious in the eastern corner which once James, me
Englishman tilled up the soil from my turning it over first by hand
with a shovel, she revealed herself.  We put her in a glass gallon
pickle jar, but she eventually died.  The second one, right afterwards
was a smaller one (the first was as large as a fifty cent Kennedy
piece, serious!) she was the size of a quarter. She had moved into the
hollow spot on the bottom of a three gallon nursery pot filled with
daylilies.  She got squashed, quickly.  The third encounter was back
in the raised bed.  She had used the roots and soil of some perennials
to make her cave, and I just plunked the whole thing in with the
thought that she'd be overcome and I had buried her alive. I don't
know if she was able to work her way out of the soil since the depth
was a foot down with daylily toes and soil above her to get through.
She's the reason I now have to remember to wear garden gloves or at
least those awesome latex gloves I found where I used to work that we
weren't allowed to use.

Since I have now had my first encounter with the first of many black
widows, my question is this, knowing that I am benevolent and usually
encourage the beneficials in my gardens.....this one is spinning her
capture webs over my window box that is sitting on the end of the
brick sedum and sunny perennials garden. When I was watering the
columbine that had sprung up in the middle of the Turkish toes sedums
that are growing in that long pot, I disturbed her and she huffed into
the crack where the bricks were meeting the shed back.  As much as I
know she'll keep out bad bugs, I need to know if I should allow her to
live her life there and have her many children....or should I spray
her now and keep an eye peeled for future inhabitants?  I've also seen
and had it killed, my first serious encounter with a brown recluse. I
kill those. this one wasn't too close to me, the neighbor showed it to
me, and then upon my insistance, smashed it.  I realize that the black
widow bite won't kill me but I would feel like I was having a heart
attack, and given my age now, it could mess me up.  The recluse is a
no-brainer.  Beneficial or not, one has to use common sense.  The
widow isn't agressive, and only bites when cornered. Should I spray
her dead and make her tidy little perfect corner uninhabitable?

thanks in advance........

madgardener over in the flatlands, gardening in her new Western Faerie
Holler, zone 7b somewhere in West Tennessee

 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT), madgardener


Black widow bites are a serious health risk.  And you already know
what needs to be done if you choose to reduce the risk.  The egg case
should be burned.

 



Adrenaline is toxic to the heart; I'd remove her one way or another just to
avoid all the anxiety, whether from an actual bite or even the ongoing
perceived possibility of one.

 



When we moved into this house we had black widows that created webs
all around the small front porch and in a nearby basement window well.
We managed to kill them off after a few years.

Now we have some kind of spider that looks like a recluse and appears
spring and fall in the bathtub.  I used to squash them, now I just
use the shower spray to flush them down the drain.

Ordinary garden spiders don't bother me. Venomous ones do.

gloria p

 



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