Posted by W on July 12, 2009, 5:22 pm
I am looking for an extremely simple design for an arbor shade for various
points around a house. One idea I had was to put up a single pole at each
end with a cross beam, and then put supporting beams at the far ends of each
crossbeam to the other pole's crossbeam. Then I could roll over that
structure any kind of shading, maybe using some very simple wood beams
attached to each other by rope. Does any vendor sell this kind of
structure as a kit / system?
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W
Posted by Bill who putters on July 12, 2009, 6:32 pm
> I am looking for an extremely simple design for an arbor shade for various
> points around a house. One idea I had was to put up a single pole at each
> end with a cross beam, and then put supporting beams at the far ends of each
> crossbeam to the other pole's crossbeam. Then I could roll over that
> structure any kind of shading, maybe using some very simple wood beams
> attached to each other by rope. Does any vendor sell this kind of
> structure as a kit / system?
Some thing to look at.
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Posted by David Hare-Scott on July 12, 2009, 7:47 pm
W wrote:
> I am looking for an extremely simple design for an arbor shade for
> various points around a house. One idea I had was to put up a
> single pole at each end with a cross beam, and then put supporting
> beams at the far ends of each crossbeam to the other pole's
> crossbeam. Then I could roll over that structure any kind of
> shading, maybe using some very simple wood beams attached to each
> other by rope. Does any vendor sell this kind of structure as a
> kit / system?
Even if they don't have to carry much weight shade structures can carry
quite a lot of sail area, something people tend to forget. You don't want
something that will blow down in the first high wind. Check out "Decks &
Pergolas Construction Manual" by Allan Staines. It is a cheap paperback
with loads of content. Even if you don't end up building it yourself it
will show you what is possible and the design and construction principles.
It's an Australian publication (which means it may not fit your building
code exactly) but I would expect it to be available internationally.
David
Posted by Phisherman on July 13, 2009, 4:25 pm
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:47:42 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
>W wrote:
>> I am looking for an extremely simple design for an arbor shade for
>> various points around a house. One idea I had was to put up a
>> single pole at each end with a cross beam, and then put supporting
>> beams at the far ends of each crossbeam to the other pole's
>> crossbeam. Then I could roll over that structure any kind of
>> shading, maybe using some very simple wood beams attached to each
>> other by rope. Does any vendor sell this kind of structure as a
>> kit / system?
>Even if they don't have to carry much weight shade structures can carry
>quite a lot of sail area, something people tend to forget. You don't want
>something that will blow down in the first high wind. Check out "Decks &
>Pergolas Construction Manual" by Allan Staines. It is a cheap paperback
>with loads of content. Even if you don't end up building it yourself it
>will show you what is possible and the design and construction principles.
>It's an Australian publication (which means it may not fit your building
>code exactly) but I would expect it to be available internationally.
>David
Wind is a primary concern. It is difficult to design for
unpredictable wind forces.
Posted by David Hare-Scott on July 13, 2009, 7:30 pm
Phisherman wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:47:42 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
>
>> W wrote:
>>> I am looking for an extremely simple design for an arbor shade for
>>> various points around a house. One idea I had was to put up a
>>> single pole at each end with a cross beam, and then put supporting
>>> beams at the far ends of each crossbeam to the other pole's
>>> crossbeam. Then I could roll over that structure any kind of
>>> shading, maybe using some very simple wood beams attached to each
>>> other by rope. Does any vendor sell this kind of structure as a
>>> kit / system?
>>
>> Even if they don't have to carry much weight shade structures can
>> carry quite a lot of sail area, something people tend to forget.
>> You don't want something that will blow down in the first high wind.
>> Check out "Decks & Pergolas Construction Manual" by Allan Staines.
>> It is a cheap paperback with loads of content. Even if you don't
>> end up building it yourself it will show you what is possible and
>> the design and construction principles. It's an Australian
>> publication (which means it may not fit your building code exactly)
>> but I would expect it to be available internationally.
>>
>> David
>
>
> Wind is a primary concern. It is difficult to design for
> unpredictable wind forces.
I have this problem with vegetarian meals sometimes.
David
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> points around a house. One idea I had was to put up a single pole at each
> end with a cross beam, and then put supporting beams at the far ends of each
> crossbeam to the other pole's crossbeam. Then I could roll over that
> structure any kind of shading, maybe using some very simple wood beams
> attached to each other by rope. Does any vendor sell this kind of
> structure as a kit / system?