Posted by Bill Bushnell on October 11, 2011, 8:07 pm
> On 10/8/2011 4:41 AM, nmm1@cam.ac.uk wrote:
> >> On 10/7/2011 5:58 PM, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
> >>>> Can someone identify the following tree for me?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://mrbill.homeip.net/downloads/largeTreeToBeIdentified.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> The tree is growing in a suburban yard in Sunnyvale, California (San
> >>>> Francisco Bay Area).
> >>>
> >>> This is a UK (United Kingdom) group, so we are not particularly
> >>> qualified to identify Californian trees.
> >
> > True, but some of us have some clue about such things.
> >
> >>> However, try Ailanthus.
> >>
> >> It does look like it.
> >> Grabbing a leaf and crushing would tell for sure - it stinks.
> >
> > The leaves look right, but the bark doesn't, and what may be the
> > residue of the flowers doesn't, either. And I am afraid that
> > lots of other leaves stink!
> >
> Perhaps a better photo would help to clarify.
> I'm currently in the US (east coast) and there are a number of stinky
> Ailanthus in the area which look very like that one.
I wanted to learn what kind of tree this was because I believe my next-door
neighbors are
growing one or have allowed a volunteer to grow in their garden. Normally I
would not be
too concerned, but in this case I have solar panels on my roof that are starting
to become
shaded by this tree. The lost energy generation is not much right now, about
1.5kwh/day,
but the loss will only increase as the tree grows larger.
I put together a short photo album showing their tree (first three photos) and a
different
mature tree that I posted earlier.:
http://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/ailanthusAltissima/
Solar panel shading during afternoon insolation from the neighbors' Ailanthus:
http://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/solar_panel_shadow.2011.06.20/
My next step is to discuss this with my neighbors. Their tree is not an ugly
tree, and I
suspect they rather like the shade it provides, so they may resist the idea of
removing it
and planting something different in its stead.
With such a fast-growing tree that when mature can be 40m tall, is trimming a
practical
solution?
Does anyone have additional advice?
Thanks.
--
Bill Bushnell
http://mrbill.homeip.net/
Posted by Frank Tyson on October 11, 2011, 9:06 pm
I was wondering if you could tell me some more information on what
this group is all about?
Thanks!
> > On 10/8/2011 4:41 AM, n...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
> > >> On 10/7/2011 5:58 PM, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
> > >>>> Can someone identify the following tree for me?
> > >>>>http://mrbill.homeip.net/downloads/largeTreeToBeIdentified.jpg
> > >>>> The tree is growing in a suburban yard in Sunnyvale, California (San
> > >>>> Francisco Bay Area).
> > >>> This is a UK (United Kingdom) group, so we are not particularly
> > >>> qualified to identify Californian trees.
> > > True, but some of us have some clue about such things.
> > >>> However, try Ailanthus.
> > >> It does look like it.
> > >> Grabbing a leaf and crushing would tell for sure - it stinks.
> > > The leaves look right, but the bark doesn't, and what may be the
> > > residue of the flowers doesn't, either. And I am afraid that
> > > lots of other leaves stink!
> > Perhaps a better photo would help to clarify.
> > I'm currently in the US (east coast) and there are a number of stinky
> > Ailanthus in the area which look very like that one.
> I wanted to learn what kind of tree this was because I believe my next-door neighbors are
> growing one or have allowed a volunteer to grow in their garden. Normally I would not be
> too concerned, but in this case I have solar panels on my roof that are starting to become
> shaded by this tree. The lost energy generation is not much right now, about 1.5kwh/day,
> but the loss will only increase as the tree grows larger.
> I put together a short photo album showing their tree (first three photos) and a different
> mature tree that I posted earlier.:
> http://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/ailanthusAltissima/
> Solar panel shading during afternoon insolation from the neighbors' Ailanthus:
> http://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/solar_panel_shadow.2011.06.20/
> My next step is to discuss this with my neighbors. Their tree is not an ugly tree, and I
> suspect they rather like the shade it provides, so they may resist the idea of removing it
> and planting something different in its stead.
> With such a fast-growing tree that when mature can be 40m tall, is trimming a practical
> solution?
> Does anyone have additional advice?
> Thanks.
> --
> Bill Bushnellhttp://mrbill.homeip.net/
Posted by Frank Tyson on October 11, 2011, 9:08 pm
I was wondering if you could tell me a little more about this group?
Thanks!
> > On 10/8/2011 4:41 AM, n...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
> > >> On 10/7/2011 5:58 PM, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
> > >>>> Can someone identify the following tree for me?
> > >>>>http://mrbill.homeip.net/downloads/largeTreeToBeIdentified.jpg
> > >>>> The tree is growing in a suburban yard in Sunnyvale, California (San
> > >>>> Francisco Bay Area).
> > >>> This is a UK (United Kingdom) group, so we are not particularly
> > >>> qualified to identify Californian trees.
> > > True, but some of us have some clue about such things.
> > >>> However, try Ailanthus.
> > >> It does look like it.
> > >> Grabbing a leaf and crushing would tell for sure - it stinks.
> > > The leaves look right, but the bark doesn't, and what may be the
> > > residue of the flowers doesn't, either. And I am afraid that
> > > lots of other leaves stink!
> > Perhaps a better photo would help to clarify.
> > I'm currently in the US (east coast) and there are a number of stinky
> > Ailanthus in the area which look very like that one.
> I wanted to learn what kind of tree this was because I believe my next-door neighbors are
> growing one or have allowed a volunteer to grow in their garden. Normally I would not be
> too concerned, but in this case I have solar panels on my roof that are starting to become
> shaded by this tree. The lost energy generation is not much right now, about 1.5kwh/day,
> but the loss will only increase as the tree grows larger.
> I put together a short photo album showing their tree (first three photos) and a different
> mature tree that I posted earlier.:
> http://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/ailanthusAltissima/
> Solar panel shading during afternoon insolation from the neighbors' Ailanthus:
> http://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/solar_panel_shadow.2011.06.20/
> My next step is to discuss this with my neighbors. Their tree is not an ugly tree, and I
> suspect they rather like the shade it provides, so they may resist the idea of removing it
> and planting something different in its stead.
> With such a fast-growing tree that when mature can be 40m tall, is trimming a practical
> solution?
> Does anyone have additional advice?
> Thanks.
> --
> Bill Bushnellhttp://mrbill.homeip.net/
Posted by David Hare-Scott on October 11, 2011, 10:02 pm
Frank Tyson wrote:
> I was wondering if you could tell me a little more about this group?
> Thanks!
>
Which group (this thread is posted to two)? What do you want to know?
David
Posted by news on October 12, 2011, 3:43 am
>With such a fast-growing tree that when mature can be 40m tall, is trimming a
practical
>solution?
>Does anyone have additional advice?
The one in my garden (UK) looks a bit different - perhaps not quite as
tall as the Sunnyvale example, but with a much bigger trunk and crown. A
lot of the branches seem more horizontal in aspect rather than the
comparatively vertical in your pics. This seems to have helped it have
a much more open crown, thus spreading wider rather than grwoing so
tall.
Might be the weather; might be a different variety; might be sex?
Anyway, we tend to have it trimmed every couple of years which seems to
encourage the spread rather than the height and open out the crown.
The other thing is that it looks rather close to the neighbour's house.
If it was my house, I wouldn't want it there. Mine is about 20' from
the house - but also on ground 5' higher than the house.
--
regards andyw
> >> On 10/7/2011 5:58 PM, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
> >>>> Can someone identify the following tree for me?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://mrbill.homeip.net/downloads/largeTreeToBeIdentified.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> The tree is growing in a suburban yard in Sunnyvale, California (San
> >>>> Francisco Bay Area).
> >>>
> >>> This is a UK (United Kingdom) group, so we are not particularly
> >>> qualified to identify Californian trees.
> >
> > True, but some of us have some clue about such things.
> >
> >>> However, try Ailanthus.
> >>
> >> It does look like it.
> >> Grabbing a leaf and crushing would tell for sure - it stinks.
> >
> > The leaves look right, but the bark doesn't, and what may be the
> > residue of the flowers doesn't, either. And I am afraid that
> > lots of other leaves stink!
> >
> Perhaps a better photo would help to clarify.
> I'm currently in the US (east coast) and there are a number of stinky
> Ailanthus in the area which look very like that one.