Posted by ForTheWin on September 4, 2009, 8:50 am
Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I would like to seek some
guidance with
regards a project I am undertaking for my final year at
College/Sixth Form.
I don't think that I chose the correct area to start this thread but I
figured
that there would be a lot of traffic in this section.
I would like to welcome all comments and thoughts for things for me to
try and
incorporate in my project. The project that I am undertaking is
to design and
build a "Portable Storage Device / Workstation," for my
Grandma's garden. I
would very much appreciate any thoughts on what to
include e.g. a seat or handle
which can also be used to hold a bag
open.
This is something like I wish to make:http://tinyurl.com/ljz7ce
Thanks in advance and I look forward to your suggestions.
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ForTheWin
Posted by David Hare-Scott on September 4, 2009, 8:41 pm
ForTheWin wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I would like to seek some
> guidance with regards a project I am undertaking for my final year at
> College/Sixth Form.
> I don't think that I chose the correct area to start this thread but I
> figured that there would be a lot of traffic in this section.
> I would like to welcome all comments and thoughts for things for me to
> try and incorporate in my project. The project that I am undertaking
> is to design and build a "Portable Storage Device / Workstation," for
> my Grandma's garden. I would very much appreciate any thoughts on
> what to include e.g. a seat or handle which can also be used to hold
> a bag open.
> This is something like I wish to make:http://tinyurl.com/ljz7ce
> Thanks in advance and I look forward to your suggestions.
All I could see was a very small image of a portable barbeque or maybe a
kitchen sink on wheels. "Portable Storage Device / Workstation, for my
Grandma's garden" is not much context. Unless you say (a) what it is
supposed to do in more detail and (b) show a better view of it I would not
be in any position to say if the design was good or not. I couldn't see any
bag and unless I knew what purpose a bag might serve I have no idea if
holding it open would be good.
David
Posted by ForTheWin on September 7, 2009, 7:10 am
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
> ;863643']ForTheWin wrote:-
> Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I would like to seek some
> guidance with regards a project I am undertaking for my final year at
> College/Sixth Form.
>
> I don't think that I chose the correct area to start this thread but
> I
> figured that there would be a lot of traffic in this section.
>
> I would like to welcome all comments and thoughts for things for me
> to
> try and incorporate in my project. The project that I am undertaking
> is to design and build a "Portable Storage Device / Workstation," for
> my Grandma's garden. I would very much appreciate any thoughts on
> what to include e.g. a seat or handle which can also be used to hold
> a bag open.
>
> This is something like I wish to make:http://tinyurl.com/ljz7ce
>
> Thanks in advance and I look forward to your suggestions.-
>
> All I could see was a very small image of a portable barbeque or maybe
> a
> kitchen sink on wheels. "Portable Storage Device / Workstation, for my
>
> Grandma's garden" is not much context. Unless you say (a) what it is
> supposed to do in more detail and (b) show a better view of it I would
> not
> be in any position to say if the design was good or not. I couldn't
> see any
> bag and unless I knew what purpose a bag might serve I have no idea if
>
> holding it open would be good.
>
>
> David
Okay so perhaps not the best first post in the world but I'll have
another go.
The image itself is of a potting workstation which can be connected to
a mains
water supply to wash down pots or clean tools. (THIS IS NOT MY
PRODUCT, THIS IS
AN EXISTING PORODUCT ON THE MARKET!)
(a) what it is supposed to do - As the name suggests a portable storage
device,
it is supposed to be able to hold all the tools my grandma will
need when she is
gardening be it in the back or front garden, it is
supposed to hold all her
tools and equipment etc...
(b) show a better view of it - As it is not made yet, I am unable to
show you it
I should start designing soon so I will be able to post
some pictures of my
sketches/drawings soon.
With regards the "bag," I was mearly trying to prompt your brains into
thinking
about whether or not that would be a good thing to have, so
when my grandma is
gardening, she can put all her rubbish in a bag
which is already open, so that
she doensn't have to wrestle with the
wind to open it.
Thank you David for your reply, hope this helps.
If anyone has any suggestions on what they would want this product to
have if
they were buying it, then please do no hesitate to comment.
Thanks again,
ForTheWin
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ForTheWin
Posted by David Hare-Scott on September 7, 2009, 11:20 pm
ForTheWin wrote:
> Okay so perhaps not the best first post in the world but I'll have
> another go.
> The image itself is of a potting workstation which can be connected to
> a mains water supply to wash down pots or clean tools. (THIS IS NOT MY
> PRODUCT, THIS IS AN EXISTING PORODUCT ON THE MARKET!)
> (a) what it is supposed to do - As the name suggests a portable
> storage device, it is supposed to be able to hold all the tools my
> grandma will need when she is gardening be it in the back or front
> garden, it is supposed to hold all her tools and equipment etc...
I have some problems with the concept.
- To do potting you need; pots, media, plants or seeds, tools and water.
How much of this are you intending to cart around? In some cases the media
has been made (or delivered) in bulk and is not conveniently movable. Smart
gardeners walk to the heavy and bulk materials and work there - they don't
carry them about in order to work with them. Smarter gardeners dump the
media next to the work area.
- How strong is Grandma? Some grandmas (and non-grandmas) will be happier
selecting one or two tools out of the potting shed and taking them where
they need to be used rather than shlepping the lot around with them,
including the kitchen sink, regardless of which are needed on the day. A
good setup would have the workspace near all the materials it needs
including tools. Typically if working away from that workspace one puts the
tools in the wheelbarrow which you are going to use because often you need
the wheelbarrow too.
> (b) show a better view of it - As it is not made yet, I am unable to
> show you it I should start designing soon so I will be able to post
> some pictures of my sketches/drawings soon.
I would hope that with your drawings you will be able to explain why and
when a portable setup is advantageous to a fixed one, not just how your
design has more bells and whistles than the others. Extra features mean
extra cost and weight.
> With regards the "bag," I was mearly trying to prompt your brains into
> thinking about whether or not that would be a good thing to have, so
> when my grandma is gardening, she can put all her rubbish in a bag
> which is already open, so that she doensn't have to wrestle with the
> wind to open it.
It depends if the rubbish is compostable and how and where the bag might be
emptied.
> Thank you David for your reply, hope this helps.
You are welcome. If I seem negative don't take it personally, reality can
be very negative, if you are going to do design there is no point in
pretending otherwise.
David
Posted by ForTheWin on September 14, 2009, 6:06 am
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
> ;863903']ForTheWin wrote:-
>
>
> Okay so perhaps not the best first post in the world but I'll have
> another go.
>
> The image itself is of a potting workstation which can be connected
> to
> a mains water supply to wash down pots or clean tools. (THIS IS NOT
> MY
> PRODUCT, THIS IS AN EXISTING PORODUCT ON THE MARKET!)
>
> (a) what it is supposed to do - As the name suggests a portable
> storage device, it is supposed to be able to hold all the tools my
> grandma will need when she is gardening be it in the back or front
> garden, it is supposed to hold all her tools and equipment etc...
> -
>
> I have some problems with the concept.
>
> - To do potting you need; pots, media, plants or seeds, tools and
> water.
> How much of this are you intending to cart around? In some cases the
> media
> has been made (or delivered) in bulk and is not conveniently movable.
> Smart
> gardeners walk to the heavy and bulk materials and work there - they
> don't
> carry them about in order to work with them. Smarter gardeners dump
> the
> media next to the work area.
>
> - How strong is Grandma? Some grandmas (and non-grandmas) will be
> happier
> selecting one or two tools out of the potting shed and taking them
> where
> they need to be used rather than shlepping the lot around with them,
> including the kitchen sink, regardless of which are needed on the day.
> A
> good setup would have the workspace near all the materials it needs
> including tools. Typically if working away from that workspace one puts
> the
> tools in the wheelbarrow which you are going to use because often you
> need
> the wheelbarrow too.
> -
> (b) show a better view of it - As it is not made yet, I am unable to
> show you it I should start designing soon so I will be able to post
> some pictures of my sketches/drawings soon.
> -
>
> I would hope that with your drawings you will be able to explain why
> and
> when a portable setup is advantageous to a fixed one, not just how your
>
> design has more bells and whistles than the others. Extra features
> mean
> extra cost and weight.
> -
> With regards the "bag," I was mearly trying to prompt your brains
> into
> thinking about whether or not that would be a good thing to have, so
> when my grandma is gardening, she can put all her rubbish in a bag
> which is already open, so that she doensn't have to wrestle with the
> wind to open it.
> -
>
> It depends if the rubbish is compostable and how and where the bag
> might be
> emptied.
> -
> Thank you David for your reply, hope this helps.
> -
>
> You are welcome. If I seem negative don't take it personally, reality
> can
> be very negative, if you are going to do design there is no point in
> pretending otherwise.
>
> David
Thanks David for your reply, upon reflection I am going to try and
rethink on
the whole workstation where all tools are portable. I have
thought about what
you said and like you say, clever gardeners don't
lug all their equipment
everywhere. I am going to try and design
something on the lines of this product
: http://tinyurl.com/onznxv .
Still at the designing stage so I am still welcoming all opinions,
anything may
help even if you think that it might be insignificant.
Thanks again David.
--
ForTheWin
> guidance with regards a project I am undertaking for my final year at
> College/Sixth Form.
> I don't think that I chose the correct area to start this thread but I
> figured that there would be a lot of traffic in this section.
> I would like to welcome all comments and thoughts for things for me to
> try and incorporate in my project. The project that I am undertaking
> is to design and build a "Portable Storage Device / Workstation," for
> my Grandma's garden. I would very much appreciate any thoughts on
> what to include e.g. a seat or handle which can also be used to hold
> a bag open.
> This is something like I wish to make:http://tinyurl.com/ljz7ce
> Thanks in advance and I look forward to your suggestions.