Posted by Boron Elgar on July 9, 2010, 8:34 am
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 07:30:18 -0600, dr-solo@wi.rr.com wrote:
>First you need to find out what you REALLY have. Then read everything you can
on the
>web
>...a true wilt seldom occurs in tomato, at least not until late in the season
>....Tomatoes and potatoes must have at least a day of saturated soil before
infection
>occurs.
>Control
>1. resistant varieties
>2. raised beds that drain quickly
>3. new soil over plastic that blocks the fungus
>4. even moisture and dont over fertilize.
You have some interesting information, but there are circumstances in
which wilt DOES come early and its attack is swift and devastating. We
were hit with it in the NE last season.
You can read up on it here, or do some more searching of your own.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/opinion/09barber.html
The article says, in part:
The latest trouble is the explosion of late blight, a plant disease
that attacks potatoes and tomatoes. Late blight appears innocent
enough at first — a few brown spots here, some lesions there — but it
spreads fast. Although the fungus isn’t harmful to humans, it has
devastating effects on tomatoes and potatoes grown outdoors. Plants
that appear relatively healthy one day, with abundant fruit and
vibrant stems, can turn toxic within a few days. (See the Irish potato
famine, caused by a strain of the fungus.)
Most farmers in the Northeast, accustomed to variable conditions, have
come to expect it in some form or another. Like a sunburn or a
mosquito bite, you’ll probably be hit by late blight sooner or later,
and while there are steps farmers can take to minimize its damage and
even avoid it completely, the disease is almost always present, if not
active.
But this year is turning out to be different — quite different,
according to farmers and plant scientists. For one thing, the disease
appeared much earlier than usual. Late blight usually comes, well,
late in the growing season, as fungal spores spread from plant to
plant. So its early arrival caught just about everyone off guard.
And then there’s the perniciousness of the 2009 blight. The pace of
the disease (it covered the Northeast in just a few days) and its
strength (topical copper sprays, a convenient organic preventive, have
been much less effective than in past years) have shocked even
hardened Hudson Valley farmers.
Posted by Higgs Boson on July 17, 2010, 10:49 pm
On Jul 9, 6:30 am, dr-s...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> First you need to find out what you REALLY have. Then read everything you can on the
> web
> ...a true wilt seldom occurs in tomato, at least not until late in the season
> ....Tomatoes and potatoes must have at least a day of saturated soil before infection
> occurs.
> Control
> 1. resistant varieties
> 2. raised beds that drain quickly
> 3. new soil over plastic that blocks the fungus
> 4. even moisture and dont over fertilize.
> Frankly, my mother once planted tomatoes around small circular compost heaps and
> those plants with the constant low level leaching of nutrients seemed to thrive when
> the other plants in the regular beds succumbed.
> QST 713 strain of Bacillus subtilis is a biologic control of some types of fungi.
> Perfectly safe to use, altho I dont know how useful if not used exactly as directed
> and for what is actually attacking the plants.
> INgrid
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson <hypati...@gmail.com=
> wrote:
> >The "wilt" or whatever it is got so bad that I pulled up several large
> >plants that were not producing.
> >"Serenade garden Disease Control: Can be used for organic gardens.
> >Fungicide that attacks harmful garden diseases." Active ingredient is
> >QST 713 strain of Bacillus subtilis 0.074%.
> ----------------------------------------
> "The soilborne fungus Verticilliurn albo-atrum is present in most cool soils of the
> Northeast and can attach over 200 plant species. especially tomatoes, potatoes,
> eggplant, strawberries, and black raspberries. Other susceptible vegetables include
> artichoke, beet, broad bean. chicory. cucumber, dandelion, endive, horseradish,
> muskmellon, okra. peppers, radish, rhubarb, salsify, and watermelon. Corn, other
> cereals, and grasses are resistant.
> Symptoms
> In spite of the name verticillium wilt,-----> a true wilt seldom occurs in tomato, at
> least not until late in the season. Rather, under good conditions of moisture and
> nutrition, yellow blotches on the lower leaves may be the first symptoms, then brown
> veins appear, and finally chocolate brown dead spots. The spots may be confused with
> alternaria early blight, but they are not definite, nor do they develop concentric
> bull's-eye rings.
> The leaves may wilt, die and drop off. The disease symptoms progress up the stem, and
> the plant becomes stunted. Only the top leaves stay green. Fruits remain small,
> develop yellow shoulders, and may sunburn because of loss of leaves.
> Infection takes place directly when the fungus threads enter the root hair. It is
> aided in its entrance if rootlets are broken or nematodes have fed on the root
> system. The fungus grows rapidly up the xylem, or sap-conducting channels. Its
> activity there results in interference with the normal upward movement of water and
> nutrients. The fungus produces a toxin that contributes to the wilting and spotting
> of the leaves. Diagnosis involves making a vertical slice of the main stem just above
> the soil line and observing a brown color in the conducting tissues under the bark.
> This discoloration can be traced upwards as well as downwards into the roots. In
> contrast to fusarium wilt, verticillium wilt discoloration seldom extends more than
> 10-I2 inches above the soil, even though its toxins may progress farther.
> The Causal Fungus
> Its wide host range permits Verticillium to persist in soils for long periods. It
> remains alive by means of darn resting threads, which form in great numbers on dying
> diseased underground plant parts. It can attack and multiply in many common weeds,
> including ragweed, cocklebur, and velvetleaf. One form of the fungus produces tiny
> black resting bodies (microsclerotia), which help it survive over winter.
> The pathogen is sensitive to soil moisture and temperature. Tomatoes and potatoes
> must have at least a day of saturated soil before infection occurs. Soil temperatures
> must be moderate or cool for infection to take place: 75° F (24° C) is optimum with
> 55° F (13° C) minimum and 86° F (30° C) maximum.
> Controls
> Long rotations (4-5 years) with nonrelated crops, well-drained soils, and soil
> moisture kept at the minimum for good growth are advisable.
> In greenhouses or with plastic-strip mulch, soil fumigation gives good control and is
> feasible on high-value crops.
> By far the most feasible and economic control is the use of Verticillium-tolerant
> tomato cultivars of which there are many with varying maturities and excellent
> horticultural qualities. These include the following:"
> New Yorker (V)
> Springset
> Pic Red
> Jet Star
> Supersonic
> Heinz 1350
> Heinz 1439
> Westover
> Royal Flush
> Floramerica
> Veebrite
> Veemore
> Veegan
> Veeset
> Burpee VF Hyb.
> Starshot
> Earlirouge
> Supersteak
> Campbell 1327
> Fireball (V)
> Beefmaster
> Better Boy
> Bonus
> Gardener (V)
> Monte Carlo
> Nova (Paste)
> Crimson Vee (Paste)
> Veeroma (Paste)
> Veepick (Paste)
> Ramapo
> Moreton Hyb.
> Spring Giant
> Basket Vee
> Campbell 17
> Big Set
> Setmore
> Small Fry
> Terrific
> Big Girl
> Mainpak
> Early Cascade
> Jumbo
> Wonder Boy
> Rutgers 39
> Ultra Boy
> Ultra Girl
> Rushmore
> Jetfirehttp://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/factsheets/Tomato_Verticil ...
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
> on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago
THANKS THANKS THANKS Ingrid for a really helpful post. I will save
the
list of vermiculum-tolerate tomatoes for next year -- if we all make
it! <g>
Hypatia
Posted by balvenieman on July 9, 2010, 1:42 pm
>Nursery sold me product whose label reads:
>"Serenade garden Disease Control: Can be used for organic gardens.
>Fungicide that attacks harmful garden diseases." Active ingredient is
>QST 713 strain of Bacillus subtilis 0.074%.
>This from AGRA Quest, not my favorite among corporate ag. giants.
That particular strain may be proprietary but surely there are
independant sources of information about the Bacillus. Particularly
important are collateral damage (that is, the danger it represents to
non-target species) and residual activity. For example, does it kill off
its host and then die or does it go into some survival mode where it can
continue to do whatever collateral damage it does (if any)?
>2. Nursery guy also said that I should not replant edibles in that
>area; that I should remove the earth to a depth of (I think he said )
>about 6" or more; that it would take "several years" for the area to
>recover. (Assuming it is infected).
>That sounds pretty drastic to me; esp removing the earth.
I think the nursery guy is goofy. LOL ...but that's just me, maybe.
I'm with the landscape friend. If it were mine, I'd spend some time
trying to identify the cause of the "wilt" and grow other garden
vegetables that are, at the least, resistant to commonplace diseases and
infections. Unfortunately, if the cool and damp conditions that you
mention continue, systemic mildews can plague legumes which, otherwise,
would be a perfect test crop that (properly done) result in a net
"benefit" to the soil; be sure to use inoculated seeds.
--
the Balvenieman
Breakfasting on single malt in
USDA zone 9b, peninsular Florida, U.S.A.
Posted by dr-solo on July 14, 2010, 10:23 am
It is a commonly found bacteria in the wild. It is organic like Bt is, only more
specific in that it has been selected and "amped up" to target pests. Since it
is a
spore former it can go dormant when it doesnt have correct growing conditions.
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:42:22 -0500, balvenieman@invalid.net wrote:
> That particular strain may be proprietary but surely there are
>independant sources of information about the Bacillus. Particularly
>important are collateral damage (that is, the danger it represents to
>non-target species) and residual activity. For example, does it kill off
>its host and then die or does it go into some survival mode where it can
>continue to do whatever collateral damage it does (if any)?
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# Description of the Active Ingredient
Bacillus subtilis strain QST 713 is a widespread bacterium found in soil, water,
and
air. Bacillus subtilis strain QST 713 controls the growth of certain harmful
bacteria
and fungi, presumably by competing for nutrients, growth sites on plants, and by
directly colonizing and attaching to fungal pathogens.\
# Use Sites, Target Pests, and Application Methods
* Use Sites: B. subtilis strain QST 713 is approved for use on a wide
variety of
food crops, including cherries, cucurbits, grapes, leafy vegetables, peppers,
potatoes, tomatoes, and walnuts.
* Target Pests: Fungi and bacteria that cause scab, powdery mildew, sour rot,
downy mildew, and early leaf spot, early blight, late blight, bacterial spot, and
walnut blight diseases.
* Application Methods: B. subtilis strain QST 713 is sold as a powder that is
mixed with water and sprayed on foliage using ground equipment. The number and
timing
of applications vary with crop and level of infestation.
# Assessing Risks to Human Health
No harmful health effects to humans are expected from use of B. subtilis strain
QST
713. Appropriate tests found no evidence that the bacterium is infectious or
significantly toxic to humans. However, contact with B. subtilis strain QST 713
products may cause redness or irritation to the skin. To minimize the risk of
adverse
reactions in applicators and handlers, EPA is requiring these workers to use
appropriate personal protective equipment.
# Assessing Risks to the Environment
Available studies show that no adverse effects are expected to non-target
organisms,
with the possible exception of honey bees, when products containing B. subtilis
strain QST 713 are used in accordance with label instructions. However, because
of
some difficulties associated with interpreting the results of these studies, EPA
is
requiring additional tests to confirm that use of pesticide products with B.
subtilis
strain QST 713 will not infect or otherwise harm honey bees, wasps, shrimp and
other
aquatic invertebrates. Meanwhile, to minimize the risk to honey bees,
applicators are
not allowed to spray areas where bees are actively foraging. After the results
of the
additional studies become available, EPA will decide whether this use
restriction can
be lifted.
http://www.epa.gov/oppbppd1/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsheet_006479.htm
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Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago