Posted by Guy Pinder on October 6, 2009, 10:39 am
Hi I've just joined Gardenbanter to try and solve a problem of garden
styles in
the 60's 70's and 80's. There is lots of info on Georgian or
Victorian garden
design (And even the fifties) but nothing on more
recent years. All I can
remember of gardens back then were swings and
bikes not varieties of plants. Can
anyone please help identify what
varieties of plants were fashionable and how
they would have been used,
shrubbery, rockery hedge etc.
Cheers GUY
--
Guy Pinder
Posted by FarmI on October 7, 2009, 11:14 pm
> Hi I've just joined Gardenbanter to try and solve a problem of garden
> styles in the 60's 70's and 80's. There is lots of info on Georgian or
> Victorian garden design (And even the fifties) but nothing on more
> recent years. All I can remember of gardens back then were swings and
> bikes not varieties of plants. Can anyone please help identify what
> varieties of plants were fashionable and how they would have been used,
> shrubbery, rockery hedge etc.
Hi Guy
Asking that sort of question in an ng which has international following
makes a sensible response a bit hard. I can tell you what they were like in
Australia during each of those periods but I can't imagine that knowing that
Australian native plant gardens were all the rage in the 70s and
unsuccessful largely because at that time there was limited knowledge of the
size to which some of the plants would get to as they matured probably
wouldn't be too useful to you.
I suggest you head off to a second hand book dealer because every one I have
ever been to has a LOT of gardening books for those decades. I go regularly
to replace my locally produced gardening book from the 60s.
Posted by Bill on October 8, 2009, 6:50 am
> >
> > Hi I've just joined Gardenbanter to try and solve a problem of garden
> > styles in the 60's 70's and 80's. There is lots of info on Georgian or
> > Victorian garden design (And even the fifties) but nothing on more
> > recent years. All I can remember of gardens back then were swings and
> > bikes not varieties of plants. Can anyone please help identify what
> > varieties of plants were fashionable and how they would have been used,
> > shrubbery, rockery hedge etc.
>
> Hi Guy
>
> Asking that sort of question in an ng which has international following
> makes a sensible response a bit hard. I can tell you what they were like in
> Australia during each of those periods but I can't imagine that knowing that
> Australian native plant gardens were all the rage in the 70s and
> unsuccessful largely because at that time there was limited knowledge of the
> size to which some of the plants would get to as they matured probably
> wouldn't be too useful to you.
>
> I suggest you head off to a second hand book dealer because every one I have
> ever been to has a LOT of gardening books for those decades. I go regularly
> to replace my locally produced gardening book from the 60s.
With Farml's advice in mind I'd look at the Time-life series of
gardening by James Underwood Crockett. This is circa 1972. There is a
similar series circa 1960 but I can't find it or remember the details.
<http://tinyurl.com/yasmyqo>
Bill
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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Posted by lannerman on October 9, 2009, 6:40 pm
'Bill[_13_ Wrote:
> ;866570']In article
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> "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
> -
> "Guy Pinder" Guy.Pinder.5415286@gardenbanter.co.uk wrote in message
>
> Hi I've just joined Gardenbanter to try and solve a problem of
> garden
> styles in the 60's 70's and 80's. There is lots of info on Georgian
> or
> Victorian garden design (And even the fifties) but nothing on more
> recent years. All I can remember of gardens back then were swings
> and
> bikes not varieties of plants. Can anyone please help identify what
> varieties of plants were fashionable and how they would have been
> used,
> shrubbery, rockery hedge etc.-
>
> Hi Guy
>
> Asking that sort of question in an ng which has international
> following
> makes a sensible response a bit hard. I can tell you what they were
> like in
> Australia during each of those periods but I can't imagine that
> knowing that
> Australian native plant gardens were all the rage in the 70s and
> unsuccessful largely because at that time there was limited knowledge
> of the
> size to which some of the plants would get to as they matured probably
>
> wouldn't be too useful to you.
>
> I suggest you head off to a second hand book dealer because every one
> I have
> ever been to has a LOT of gardening books for those decades. I go
> regularly
> to replace my locally produced gardening book from the 60s. -
>
> With Farml's advice in mind I'd look at the Time-life series of
> gardening by James Underwood Crockett. This is circa 1972. There is a
>
> similar series circa 1960 but I can't find it or remember the details.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yasmyqo
>
> Bill
>
> --
>
> Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Hi, Guy, As a boy growing up in the fifties, gardens were still very
much
influenced by the war years with every back garden in the land
still growing veg
and every front lawn surrounded by roses with a
hydrangea in the corner and
clumps of very traditional perennials like,
solidago, pinks, cranesbill
geranium, asters, chrysanthemum and dahlias
etc. etc. My involvement with
gardening started with me working at my
local garden centre in Somerset in 1966
when I remember a far greater
proportion of deciduous shrubs than are popular
today ; Forsythia,
Weigelia (as it was spelt then) Lilac, spirea and really
shrubs which
were grown for their flowers. Of course, it was these early garden
centres that were responsible for introducing the general public to
more unusual
evergreen shrubs that up until then had only been known by
a very small section
of society. So slowly as we drifted towards the
70's, the average man had not
only more leisure time but had the money
to spend on plants and became less
reliant on what was grown at home.
In the late 60's everybody wanted a
rockery, alpines were very
popular, as were dwarf conifers especially
'Boulevard' and 'Rheingold'.
By now containerisation was the norm, albeit those
horrid floppy
bags,but it did mean that for the first time plants were available
all
the year and not just in the traditional dormant period. In the 70's I
moved
to Cornwall and worked initially as a landscape gardener and then
again for a
garden centre. By now (mid 70's) slab patios were in vogue,
and to go on them
garden furniture (Iroko for the rich, plastic for the
poor) rockeries now
incorporated waterfalls and ponds, the first of the
conservatories were
appearing, albeit initially for the majority only
lean-to alluminium greenhouses
(which were totally unsuitable to sit in
due to at the best condensation and at
the worst leakage) Curved flowing
borders by now had replaced straight lines and
natural slate, especially
slate crazy paving was all the rage. Lots of garden
centres by now had
sprung up so everybody had access to an ever increasing range
of mainly
evergreen shrubs, the traditional deciduous species now only selling
when thay were in flower. As we moved through the eighties, the garden
became
'the outdoor room' with barbeques now gracing the patio. There
were still the
die-hard veg growers but the 'organic' revolution was
really taking hold.
Television was now playing its part in driving
trends (this really took off in
the early nineties with programmes like
ground force etc.) and the garden
centres were now becoming outdoor
activity centres. Car boot sales became big
business and from the early
nineties (to date) is where I have been selling
plants. So enough
waffle, not really very much about plants !
Best wishes Lannerman.
--
lannerman
Posted by Guy Pinder on October 13, 2009, 3:41 am
Thats Brilliant! I was just after a feel of how gardens changed over the
years
and what trends were about when. This is very helpful cheers GUY
lannerman;866662 Wrote:
> Hi, Guy, As a boy growing up in the fifties, gardens
were still very
> much influenced by the war years with every back garden in the
land
> still growing veg and every front lawn surrounded by roses with a
>
hydrangea in the corner and clumps of very traditional perennials like,
>
solidago, pinks, cranesbill geranium, asters, chrysanthemum and dahlias
> etc.
etc. My involvement with gardening started with me working at my
> local garden
centre in Somerset in 1966 when I remember a far greater
> proportion of
deciduous shrubs than are popular today ; Forsythia,
> Weigelia (as it was spelt
then) Lilac, spirea and really shrubs which
> were grown for their flowers. Of
course, it was these early garden
> centres that were responsible for
introducing the general public to
> more unusual evergreen shrubs that up until
then had only been known by
> a very small section of society. So slowly as we
drifted towards the
> 70's, the average man had not only more leisure time but
had the money
> to spend on plants and became less reliant on what was grown at
home.
> In the late 60's everybody wanted a rockery, alpines were very
>
popular, as were dwarf conifers especially 'Boulevard' and 'Rheingold'.
> By now
containerisation was the norm, albeit those horrid floppy
> bags,but it did mean
that for the first time plants were available all
> the year and not just in the
traditional dormant period. In the 70's I
> moved to Cornwall and worked
initially as a landscape gardener and then
> again for a garden centre. By now
(mid 70's) slab patios were in vogue,
> and to go on them garden furniture
(Iroko for the rich, plastic for the
> poor) rockeries now incorporated
waterfalls and ponds, the first of the
> conservatories were appearing, albeit
initially for the majority only
> lean-to alluminium greenhouses (which were
totally unsuitable to sit in
> due to at the best condensation and at the worst
leakage) Curved flowing
> borders by now had replaced straight lines and natural
slate, especially
> slate crazy paving was all the rage. Lots of garden centres
by now had
> sprung up so everybody had access to an ever increasing range of
mainly
> evergreen shrubs, the traditional deciduous species now only selling
>
when thay were in flower. As we moved through the eighties, the garden
> became
'the outdoor room' with barbeques now gracing the patio. There
> were still the
die-hard veg growers but the 'organic' revolution was
> really taking hold.
Television was now playing its part in driving
> trends (this really took off in
the early nineties with programmes like
> ground force etc.) and the garden
centres were now becoming outdoor
> activity centres. Car boot sales became big
business and from the early
> nineties (to date) is where I have been selling
plants. So enough
> waffle, not really very much about plants !
> Best wishes Lannerman.
--
Guy Pinder
> styles in the 60's 70's and 80's. There is lots of info on Georgian or
> Victorian garden design (And even the fifties) but nothing on more
> recent years. All I can remember of gardens back then were swings and
> bikes not varieties of plants. Can anyone please help identify what
> varieties of plants were fashionable and how they would have been used,
> shrubbery, rockery hedge etc.
Hi Guy