Posted by enigma on April 5, 2008, 3:31 pm
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> I'll be lucky if I can grow enough garnish for my meals. I
> can't support me, much less the other four that would count
> on me. I think I need to cut me some firewood and plant
> fruit trees, but this was nearly a climax forest, so that
> feels weird. But still, if I can cover a couple of possums,
> leave a little for the deer, and maybe plant a walnut tree
> for the squirrels, what the hell.
squirrels prefer hickory, actually. they only go for my
walnuts if i leave the box outside after i take the hulls off.
however, in the 9 autumns i've been here & with a few dozen
hickories, i've only managed to score *one* nut for myself.
the squirrels eat them off the trees. almost all i ever see
are the hulls & a bit of shell :p
where are you that you have almost climax forest? i have
pasture gone to pine to hardwood over the past 70 years (this
place was a grain mill in the 1800s, then a dairy until the
30s. then it became a Boston professor's summer home until the
mid-60s, when it was reformed into a small sheep & maple syrup
producing farm). i wouldn't call it climax, even though most
of the softwood is gone.
> Typically, we would get plucked slowly, like the frog
> sitting in the boiling water, but I think Shrub and his
> gang has really screwed up and the economy has gotten away
> from them. I hope I'm wrong.
there is already a recession, no matter how much the gub'mint
is loathe to say the "r" word. i think it will get worse
before it gets better & i can see the next president in a
really bad position... i am hopeful there will not be a
depression, but i would not rule it out.
i'm trying to decide if i should pay off my mortgage, so i
will be clear in that event. i'm also trying to decide if i
should buy more adjacent land, to aid in self-sufficiency.
this house was built before modern 'conveniences' & it can
work without them if needed. i consider myself lucky in that
regard at least.
lee
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Posted by enigma on April 6, 2008, 9:29 am
ct.net.au:
> What if I get lucky and have a hickory nut to myself? Can I
> eat it?
i did, it was delicious! :) i want to plant more hickory. it
*might* improve my chances of getting another one to eat
myself...
> We had a black walnut that never showed a harvest
> but it up and died. How do squirrels do with chestnuts?
i have 2 black walnuts, one in my yard (as it were) & one in
the former peach orchard, now pasture. the first is around 35
years old & bears heavily every other year. the one in the
pasture is about 15 years & just started bearing about 3 years
ago (it had 3 walnuts). it also seems to bear alternate years.
oddly, it's heavy years are the bigger trees lean years... so i
end up with about the same amount of walnuts.
i think it depends on the type of chestnut, if the squirrels
will eat them. they will eat my American chestnuts (if they can
get them. i'm pretty zealous about grabbing any good ones). i
don't know if they can, or will, eat buckeyes (those are horse
chestnuts, right?). i'm trying to get seedlings from my
chestnut, as they are only slightly self-fertile. you get much
bigger yields if they can cross pollanate. i'm almost thinking
of getting some of the American/Chinese hybrids, just to help my
poor tree out. it had blight, but was drasticly pruned &
survived. i'm hoping it's offsping will be resistant.
> I'm out her in northern California on the edge of the
> redwood forest. I'm twixt Santa Rosa and Guerneville.
> Guerneville was so heavily logged that its' unofficial name
> is "Stumptown". Redwood and bay make up most of the
> non-deciduous trees. I don't know if bay is considered
> hardwood but it is harder than the redwood. We had one
> redwood, up the hill from our house about 70 - 80 feet (we
> are on the south bank of the Russian River, with a northern
> exposure), that hung like the sword of Damocles over our
> house, so we took it down. I didn't like doing it but it
> was necessary for my family. We still have twenty or so
> trees on our three lots, mostly oak, some bays, and a
> couple of buckeyes.
the buckeyes aren't native, i don't think. they're nice lumber
trees though. bays are hardwoods. even birch is a hardwood,
although it's softer than pine (softwoods are generally
conifers, & hardwoods are deciduous).
if you have some relatively open areas on your lots, look for
antique apples to put in. most of the antique varieties don't
need as much fussing as the modern ones... or small fruits, like
highbush cranberry, maybe. i'm all for edible landscaping.
that looks like a pretty nice area from the yahoo arial map
(which tend to be clearer than google, but not always). lots of
treed, hilly country to escape into if needed ;)
> I think, at least for the for seeable future, people in the
> western world will look back on the Twentieth Century as
> the "Golden Age" when the old prophecies of milk and honey
> almost came true. I doubt the developing world will see it
> like that though. Until we reach some sort of equivalency
> in life style with the developing world, I think we can
> expect our life style to diminish. I was born in the middle
> of WWII. After the war, America was responsible for 50% of
> the worlds commerce because the rest of the industrialized
> world had blow themselves to pieces. Suddenly, families
> could survive on a single income and mom could stay home
> with the kids. Never was like that before and probably
> never will be again, with our current style of gub'mint
> (keptocracy).
well, unless you look at farming lifestyles pre-WW, when
families were extended (grandparents, parents, children &
frequently unmarried siblings of the parents) all living &
working together.
i'm a bit younger than you (1954), but i was a child of
depression era parents. kids born mid-60s or later tend not to
understand the make, save, repair or do without mindset. i do
know that my child is the only one who attends school in patched
clothes...
> I got the book you recommended "Teach Yourself Visually
> Handspinning" and I'm slowly picking up the vocabulary.
> Presently, I'm reading the library's copy but in a few days
> mine will show up from Amazon.
did you get a drop spindle? i really need to try that again.
way more portable than my wheel.
lee
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Posted by enigma on April 6, 2008, 4:48 pm
ct.net.au:
>> did you get a drop spindle?
>
> No, I want to finish my first read through of the book
> first. Presently I'm on a treadmill trying to get loaned
> books back to the library before their due dates or wait at
> least a month to get them back. Lord, I just looked at my
> library account, I'm up next on four books and I've moved
> up from 96th to 38th on "In Defense of Food".
geez! i could mail you mine & get it there ( & back) before
you get to the top of the list!
> Drop spindles are good for stress reduction, right? I think
> I've re-thought my position on the drop spindle. What do I
> need to look for and what should I pay, or, simpler, which
> one should I buy (not that I will)?
once you get them figured out, yes. until you hit that point
they can be pretty aggravating ;)
i could send you a sample bottom whorl spindle to try out.
i've been meaning to try a top whorl myself to see what the
difference is (most likely it'll mean i need more spindles).
otherwise, look for a nice 2-2.5 ounce spindle. spin it
between your fingers to check the balance. if it's wobbly, you
don't want it.
> I only lost one plant out of my damp-off scare. They are
> all out side now, waiting for a little more growth before
> going into the garden. Meanwhile I have three more
> germination trays loaded, one of which (the warm weather
> plants is starting to sprout with basil, squash, melons,
> peppers and all that good stuff. A 24-cell tray of shrub
> beans got put under our water bed because it is always warm
> there. Each morning is like a birthday, in my
> self-composting study, with new little green presents
> popping up on the heat pad and under the grow lights.
i'm resisting starting seeds. while daytime temps are hitting
the 40s now, it's still freezing at night (perfect sugaring
weather!). i do have crocus & snowdrops blooming. no
dandelions yet. Boo did find a salamander (red backed) this
morning, so spring *is* coming.
our last frost date is near the end of May.
> Well I'd better get to it. Hoping to seed some parsnips to
> day and prep a bed for carrots and some companion plants
> (!!?).
i plant dill with my carrots. i plant both pretty thickly
because i need extra for the black swallowtail caterpillers.
and i stick lemon marigolds where ever i can fit them in.
lee
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Posted by Bill on April 6, 2008, 5:05 pm
> ct.net.au:
>
> >> did you get a drop spindle?
> >
> > No, I want to finish my first read through of the book
> > first. Presently I'm on a treadmill trying to get loaned
> > books back to the library before their due dates or wait at
> > least a month to get them back. Lord, I just looked at my
> > library account, I'm up next on four books and I've moved
> > up from 96th to 38th on "In Defense of Food".
>
> geez! i could mail you mine & get it there ( & back) before
> you get to the top of the list!
>
> > Drop spindles are good for stress reduction, right? I think
> > I've re-thought my position on the drop spindle. What do I
> > need to look for and what should I pay, or, simpler, which
> > one should I buy (not that I will)?
>
> once you get them figured out, yes. until you hit that point
> they can be pretty aggravating ;)
> i could send you a sample bottom whorl spindle to try out.
> i've been meaning to try a top whorl myself to see what the
> difference is (most likely it'll mean i need more spindles).
> otherwise, look for a nice 2-2.5 ounce spindle. spin it
> between your fingers to check the balance. if it's wobbly, you
> don't want it.
>
> > I only lost one plant out of my damp-off scare. They are
> > all out side now, waiting for a little more growth before
> > going into the garden. Meanwhile I have three more
> > germination trays loaded, one of which (the warm weather
> > plants is starting to sprout with basil, squash, melons,
> > peppers and all that good stuff. A 24-cell tray of shrub
> > beans got put under our water bed because it is always warm
> > there. Each morning is like a birthday, in my
> > self-composting study, with new little green presents
> > popping up on the heat pad and under the grow lights.
>
> i'm resisting starting seeds. while daytime temps are hitting
> the 40s now, it's still freezing at night (perfect sugaring
> weather!). i do have crocus & snowdrops blooming. no
> dandelions yet. Boo did find a salamander (red backed) this
> morning, so spring *is* coming.
>
> our last frost date is near the end of May.
>
> > Well I'd better get to it. Hoping to seed some parsnips to
> > day and prep a bed for carrots and some companion plants
> > (!!?).
>
> i plant dill with my carrots. i plant both pretty thickly
> because i need extra for the black swallowtail caterpillers.
> and i stick lemon marigolds where ever i can fit them in.
> lee
Guess you folks know of Rodale's take on companion plantings.
Bill
<http://www.seedsofchange.com/enewsletter/issue_55/companion_planting.asp
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Posted by Charlie on April 6, 2008, 2:08 pm
>I enjoyed your quote from St. Molly, lord I miss that girl. I had just
>been thinking of it but I couldn't find it and now here it is:-)
>Best I could do was I.F. Stone:
Funny thing, I was looking for Izzy's quote but couldn't remember the
author or enough.
Keepin' the Faith
Charlie
> can't support me, much less the other four that would count
> on me. I think I need to cut me some firewood and plant
> fruit trees, but this was nearly a climax forest, so that
> feels weird. But still, if I can cover a couple of possums,
> leave a little for the deer, and maybe plant a walnut tree
> for the squirrels, what the hell.