Posted by MICHELLE H. on August 2, 2011, 5:27 pm
Not sure if this question has been asked here already, but just
wondering if you can apply lawn fertilizer and a separate grub control
product at the same time. A few days ago, we just applied the "Scotts
Super Turf Builder Summerguard - With Bug Control To Kill Ants, Fleas,
and Ticks" which is a 30-0-4 formula. We also have a bag of the "Bayer
Advanced Season Long Grub Control Plus Turf Revitalizer" which is a
6-0-1 formula.
The "Scotts Summerguard" doesn't kill grubs, and so we have to use the
separate grub control. to try to kill the grubs, because last September
we had a pesky skunk that ripped up and mutilated our yard every night
last September, October, and November.
On the back of the "Bayer Advanced Grub Control" bag, it states that the
product has to be applied before August 15th. So my question is, should
we wait another week or so before applying the grub control, or can it
be applied now? The "Scotts Summerguard" has 30% percent nitrogen, and
the "Bayer Grub Control" had 6% percent nitrogen. If we apply the "Bayer
Grub Control" right now, won't that be too much nitrogen ( 36% percent
nitrogen in one weeks time ), for the lawn to handle??
Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks!
Posted by Frank on August 13, 2011, 7:45 pm
On 8/2/2011 5:27 PM, MICHELLE H. wrote:
> Not sure if this question has been asked here already, but just
> wondering if you can apply lawn fertilizer and a separate grub control
> product at the same time. A few days ago, we just applied the "Scotts
> Super Turf Builder Summerguard - With Bug Control To Kill Ants, Fleas,
> and Ticks" which is a 30-0-4 formula. We also have a bag of the "Bayer
> Advanced Season Long Grub Control Plus Turf Revitalizer" which is a
> 6-0-1 formula.
> The "Scotts Summerguard" doesn't kill grubs, and so we have to use the
> separate grub control. to try to kill the grubs, because last September
> we had a pesky skunk that ripped up and mutilated our yard every night
> last September, October, and November.
> On the back of the "Bayer Advanced Grub Control" bag, it states that the
> product has to be applied before August 15th. So my question is, should
> we wait another week or so before applying the grub control, or can it
> be applied now? The "Scotts Summerguard" has 30% percent nitrogen, and
> the "Bayer Grub Control" had 6% percent nitrogen. If we apply the "Bayer
> Grub Control" right now, won't that be too much nitrogen ( 36% percent
> nitrogen in one weeks time ), for the lawn to handle??
> Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
> Thanks!
Not knowing either product, only if lb/1,000 ft sq are the same would
this add up to the high nitrogen value,
I'm not a Scotts fan because while they may be good products, they
probably cost twice as much and fertilizing 4 times a year is work.
I like to treat each problem separately, not carpet bomb my lawn.
Posted by Higgs Boson on August 13, 2011, 10:31 pm
> On 8/2/2011 5:27 PM, MICHELLE H. wrote:
> > Not sure if this question has been asked here already, but just
> > wondering if you can apply lawn fertilizer and a separate grub control
> > product at the same time. A few days ago, we just applied the "Scotts
> > Super Turf Builder Summerguard - With Bug Control To Kill Ants, Fleas,
> > and Ticks" which is a 30-0-4 formula. We also have a bag of the "Bayer
> > Advanced Season Long Grub Control Plus Turf Revitalizer" which is a
> > 6-0-1 formula.
> > The "Scotts Summerguard" doesn't kill grubs, and so we have to use the
> > separate grub control. to try to kill the grubs, because last September
> > we had a pesky skunk that ripped up and mutilated our yard every night
> > last September, October, and November.
> > On the back of the "Bayer Advanced Grub Control" bag, it states that the
> > product has to be applied before August 15th. So my question is, should
> > we wait another week or so before applying the grub control, or can it
> > be applied now? The "Scotts Summerguard" has 30% percent nitrogen, and
> > the "Bayer Grub Control" had 6% percent nitrogen. If we apply the "Bayer
> > Grub Control" right now, won't that be too much nitrogen ( 36% percent
> > nitrogen in one weeks time ), for the lawn to handle??
> > Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
> > Thanks!
> Not knowing either product, only if lb/1,000 ft sq are the same would
> this add up to the high nitrogen value,
> I'm not a Scotts fan because while they may be good products, they
> probably cost twice as much and fertilizing 4 times a year is work.
> I like to treat each problem separately, not carpet bomb my lawn.
You could also do away with the lawn entirely and redesign with plants
appropriate to your area. Here in So. Calif., especially in ""green"
cities like Santa Monica, there is a big move to convert to xeriscapic
designs. These are suitable for what is, after all, a desert (which
only has water thanks to Mulholland and others, not to forget the
speculators who bought up land in advance of water arriving).
This city actually pays half (I think) the cost of conversion, if you
present a substantive plan that shows you know what you're doing, and
follow through to demonstrable results.
Other parts of the country could do the same with area-appropriate
plantings.
It's a shocker to realize that THE BIGGEST CROP IN THE U.S. IS TURF
GRASS. The money spent on water, fertilizer, pesticides, etc.etc. is
in the billions. This is 2011. It is no longer a mark of prestige to
have the greenest, lushest lawn in the 'burb.
Savvy parents do not let their children play on the lawns of friends
whose parents use toxic chemicals. For obvious reasons.
HB
Posted by Bert Hyman on August 14, 2011, 9:42 am
> This city actually pays half (I think) the cost of conversion,
Which of course means that you're paying for it plus the costs of
adminstering the program.
--
bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
Posted by Billy on August 14, 2011, 1:39 pm
>
> > This city actually pays half (I think) the cost of conversion,
>
> Which of course means that you're paying for it plus the costs of
> adminstering the program.
The real question is what do we get, and what does it cost. The cost is
paid for with everybody's taxes, and everybody in the U.S. benefits from
the water conservation. Central Valley farmers benefit, which allows
them to put vegetables and fruit on your table. Fisheries benefit, which
means fish, such as salmon, are available to feed your family. The
environment benefits by maintaining bio-diversity, and recharging
aquifers. And the people of Southern California benefit, because when
they open their tap, there is water to drink or bath in. It's a
societal approach, not a Tea Bagger approach.
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(Paperback)
by Toby Hemenway
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Catching, Conserving,
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In truth, our planet should be called Water, not
Earth. About 70 percent of the globe is blanketed
by this life-giving liquid, roughly 331 million
cubic miles of it. But most of that is not available to
us. All but 3 percent of Earth's water is salty; and, of
the remaining dab of fresh water, three-quarters is
locked in ice. It gets worse. About half of what's left,
Earth's unfrozen fresh water, is 2,500 feet or more
below ground, embedded in rock. That's too deep
to recover economically. Are you following these
shrinking numbers? The accessible fresh water
in lakes, rivers, groundwater, and the atmosphere
makes up only half of one-quarter of 3 percentfor
non-Einsteins, that works out to 0.375 percentof
Earth's total water. It's precious stuff.
--
- Billy
Both the House and Senate budget plan would cut Social Security and Medicare,
while cutting taxes on the wealthy.
Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for
elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans
"appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of
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> wondering if you can apply lawn fertilizer and a separate grub control
> product at the same time. A few days ago, we just applied the "Scotts
> Super Turf Builder Summerguard - With Bug Control To Kill Ants, Fleas,
> and Ticks" which is a 30-0-4 formula. We also have a bag of the "Bayer
> Advanced Season Long Grub Control Plus Turf Revitalizer" which is a
> 6-0-1 formula.
> The "Scotts Summerguard" doesn't kill grubs, and so we have to use the
> separate grub control. to try to kill the grubs, because last September
> we had a pesky skunk that ripped up and mutilated our yard every night
> last September, October, and November.
> On the back of the "Bayer Advanced Grub Control" bag, it states that the
> product has to be applied before August 15th. So my question is, should
> we wait another week or so before applying the grub control, or can it
> be applied now? The "Scotts Summerguard" has 30% percent nitrogen, and
> the "Bayer Grub Control" had 6% percent nitrogen. If we apply the "Bayer
> Grub Control" right now, won't that be too much nitrogen ( 36% percent
> nitrogen in one weeks time ), for the lawn to handle??
> Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
> Thanks!