Posted by yawningdog on May 16, 2010, 10:49 am
I am buying a house that I will demolish & replace with a new one. In
the
garden, the existing lawn descends gently down to a nice
stream/river. But,
between the upper parts of the lawn and the stream is
an area of 1,500 square
meters that consists of soft wet ground. This
entire area is covered with Giant
Hogweed and some clumps of tall
trees.
This area could look lovely if I could raise & clear the ground and
extend the
lawn from the house down to the stream.
This is what I am thinking about doing, but would be grateful for any
comments
or easier/cheaper suggestions...
1) Cut the stalks of the largest Hogweeds and lay flat. ( I am fully
aware about
how dangerous this stuff is).
2) Lay 1,500 sqm of weed fabric over the entire area to keep out the
Hogweed and
restrict the rubble fill from sinking into the mud..
3) Demolish the house and use the brick rubble to raise the lawn by
about 40cm
and incorporate a French Drain system to the stream.
4) Lay another layer of weed fabric over the brick rubble.
5) Lay down 30cm of top soil
6) Seed for the lawn.
Am I going over the top here? I need to create a drain'able surface but
do I
need so much fabric? I don't want to give the Hogweed a chance to
come up. Will
the top soil remain in place over the weed fabric or could
it wash away?
Thanks, Guy.
New Forest, Hampshire, UK
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yawningdog
Posted by despen on May 16, 2010, 4:34 pm
> I am buying a house that I will demolish & replace with a new one. In
> the garden, the existing lawn descends gently down to a nice
> stream/river. But, between the upper parts of the lawn and the stream is
> an area of 1,500 square meters that consists of soft wet ground. This
> entire area is covered with Giant Hogweed and some clumps of tall
> trees.
In the US you'd be messing with wetlands and need some serious permits.
I've never seen hogweed here in the US. I just read about it though.
Doesn't sound like something I'd want to get up close to.
Spray it from a distance, let it die, work your way down the hill.
Posted by hubops on May 16, 2010, 5:03 pm
>> I am buying a house that I will demolish & replace with a new one. In
>> the garden, the existing lawn descends gently down to a nice
>> stream/river. But, between the upper parts of the lawn and the stream is
>> an area of 1,500 square meters that consists of soft wet ground. This
>> entire area is covered with Giant Hogweed and some clumps of tall
>> trees.
>In the US you'd be messing with wetlands and need some serious permits.
>I've never seen hogweed here in the US. I just read about it though.
>Doesn't sound like something I'd want to get up close to.
>Spray it from a distance, let it die, work your way down the hill.
Giant Hogweed is all-in-the-news
here in Southern Ontario for the past few years.
I spotted a patch last year and had to really assert
myself to the township - to have something done.
It's spreading .. are you sure you don't have it
in your part of the USA .. ?
As for the UK original poster - I'd check the local
laws & neighbours - before asking the world wide web
for advice ... the removal of this patch of hogweed
might mean hiring a big team of specialists
with haz-mat suits ...
or it might just be a well-timed accident with
some weed spray ...
Good luck.
John T.
Posted by despen on May 16, 2010, 5:19 pm
hubops@ccanoemail.com writes:
>>> I am buying a house that I will demolish & replace with a new one. In
>>> the garden, the existing lawn descends gently down to a nice
>>> stream/river. But, between the upper parts of the lawn and the stream is
>>> an area of 1,500 square meters that consists of soft wet ground. This
>>> entire area is covered with Giant Hogweed and some clumps of tall
>>> trees.
>>In the US you'd be messing with wetlands and need some serious permits.
>>I've never seen hogweed here in the US. I just read about it though.
>>Doesn't sound like something I'd want to get up close to.
>>Spray it from a distance, let it die, work your way down the hill.
> Giant Hogweed is all-in-the-news
> here in Southern Ontario for the past few years.
> I spotted a patch last year and had to really assert
> myself to the township - to have something done.
> It's spreading .. are you sure you don't have it
> in your part of the USA .. ?
I'm in NJ. Here's what I found:
The infestation is not as widespread in New Jersey as in neighboring
states. As of 2006, four sites had been identified in three counties:
Morris, Warren and Union.
Since I'm in Union, it's in the area.
I'll keep an eye out. It looks like a beautiful plant.
Too bad it's not safe.
Posted by David Hare-Scott on May 16, 2010, 6:56 pm
yawningdog wrote:
> I am buying a house that I will demolish & replace with a new one. In
> the garden, the existing lawn descends gently down to a nice
> stream/river. But, between the upper parts of the lawn and the stream
> is an area of 1,500 square meters that consists of soft wet ground.
> This entire area is covered with Giant Hogweed and some clumps of tall
> trees.
> This area could look lovely if I could raise & clear the ground and
> extend the lawn from the house down to the stream.
No doubt but why is a lawn necessary?
> This is what I am thinking about doing, but would be grateful for any
> comments or easier/cheaper suggestions...
> 1) Cut the stalks of the largest Hogweeds and lay flat. ( I am fully
> aware about how dangerous this stuff is).
I have no idea at all about hogweed
> 2) Lay 1,500 sqm of weed fabric over the entire area to keep out the
> Hogweed and restrict the rubble fill from sinking into the mud..
> 3) Demolish the house and use the brick rubble to raise the lawn by
> about 40cm and incorporate a French Drain system to the stream.
Does this house really contain 600 cubic metres of rubble? That sounds
impossible to me. My guess is that you would be bringing in many truckloads
of fill.
> 4) Lay another layer of weed fabric over the brick rubble.
> 5) Lay down 30cm of top soil
How much will that cost? Around here it would be of the order of the price
of a new car. You are talking about 100 mid-sized truckloads of soil. This
is turning into some major earthworks.
> 6) Seed for the lawn.
> Am I going over the top here?
It looks that way to me. A back of envelope estimate is looking like the
price of a small house for this job.
I need to create a drain'able surface
> but do I need so much fabric? I don't want to give the Hogweed a
> chance to come up. Will the top soil remain in place over the weed
> fabric or could it wash away?
> Thanks, Guy.
If you are prepared to spend the sort of money that your outline would cost
you would be better off hiring expert advice. There are probably much
better and cheaper solutions to the problem.
David
> the garden, the existing lawn descends gently down to a nice
> stream/river. But, between the upper parts of the lawn and the stream is
> an area of 1,500 square meters that consists of soft wet ground. This
> entire area is covered with Giant Hogweed and some clumps of tall
> trees.