Posted by Mike Lyle on March 20, 2005, 10:19 am
ghbt wrote:
[...]
> what i am now proposing is to make up my plant pot soil with 50% of
> this garden soil plus 25% garden centre compost and also 25% sand.
> Does this sound like a reasonable proportion ? and if so what kind
> of sand should i use please ( sharp sand or smooth sand ?)
It should be OK, as it isn't usually critical; but I'd up the
"compost" proportion a bit, as you want good water absorbency in
pots. You may find that in use your topsoil makes the mixture turn to
concrete when it's dry: worth trying some out in pots without plants
until you get a mix which stays crumbly when dry and doesn't stick
together like dough when wet.
Use gardener's sharp sand, not builder's: biggest bits an eighth of
an inch across.
But your mixture will still get exhausted in pots, and you'll still
need to feed in a year or so. I generally use the stuff out of
growbags -- sometimes even used ones.
--
Mike.
Posted by ghbt on March 20, 2005, 12:04 pm
> ghbt wrote:
> [...]
>> what i am now proposing is to make up my plant pot soil with 50% of
>> this garden soil plus 25% garden centre compost and also 25% sand.
>>
>> Does this sound like a reasonable proportion ? and if so what kind
>> of sand should i use please ( sharp sand or smooth sand ?)
> It should be OK, as it isn't usually critical; but I'd up the
> "compost" proportion a bit, as you want good water absorbency in
> pots. You may find that in use your topsoil makes the mixture turn to
> concrete when it's dry: worth trying some out in pots without plants
> until you get a mix which stays crumbly when dry and doesn't stick
> together like dough when wet.
> Use gardener's sharp sand, not builder's: biggest bits an eighth of
> an inch across.
> But your mixture will still get exhausted in pots, and you'll still
> need to feed in a year or so. I generally use the stuff out of
> growbags -- sometimes even used ones.
> Mike.
thanks for your response. but i remember being told some time ago that grow
bags and shop compost are ok for a short time; but do not contain the
'essential minerals' that are found in ordinary garden soil. Which are
apparently necessary for long term use in a pot.
>
Posted by ghbt on March 20, 2005, 12:07 pm
>> But your mixture will still get exhausted in pots, and you'll still
>> need to feed in a year or so. I generally use the stuff out of
>> growbags -- sometimes even used ones.
>> Mike.
> thanks for your response. but i remember being told some time ago that
> grow bags and shop compost are ok for a short time; but do not contain the
> 'essential minerals' that are found in ordinary garden soil. Which are
> apparently necessary for long term use in a pot.
By essential minerals my understanding is that it means other things than
are found in ordinary plant feed.
>>
>>
>
Posted by Mike Lyle on March 20, 2005, 12:32 pm
ghbt wrote:
>>> But your mixture will still get exhausted in pots, and you'll
still
>>> need to feed in a year or so. I generally use the stuff out of
>>> growbags -- sometimes even used ones.
>>> Mike.
>>
>> thanks for your response. but i remember being told some time ago
>> that grow bags and shop compost are ok for a short time; but do
not
>> contain the 'essential minerals' that are found in ordinary garden
>> soil. Which are apparently necessary for long term use in a pot.
> By essential minerals my understanding is that it means other
things
> than are found in ordinary plant feed.
I take the same view; but in practice it doesn't usually matter much.
As I said, though, whatever you fill a pot with will become
exhausted, so the plant will have to be fed. Your soil-based mixture
is roughly like John Innes, and will last much longer than growbag
stuff; and in theory should result in healthier plants. I wouldn't
use peat-type media for anything like a fruit tree or a flowering
tree I wanted to keep in a container for years; and even then I'd
expect to have to change the soil regularly _and_ feed.
--
Mike.
> this garden soil plus 25% garden centre compost and also 25% sand.
> Does this sound like a reasonable proportion ? and if so what kind
> of sand should i use please ( sharp sand or smooth sand ?)