I started tomatoes a little too early this year (it shouldn't have been too
early, but we had cold weather much longer than we usually do), and by the
time it was warm enough to put them outside, they were stressed to the point
where only about 6-8 out of 200+ made it.
So I started some new seeds a month ago. I planned to put the little plants
outside yesterday, but right before that I went out of town and forgot to
tell my husband to water them. I came home to find a hundred tomato
seedlings flat and dead in their little pellets.
I planted more seeds yesterday. They should be ready to put into the ground
in about a month. Am I just kidding myself, or do people actually start
tomatoes with success this late in the season? I should say that in most
years we don't get killing frosts until October or later, so our growing
season is in fact quite long. Last year, my plants were about ten feet tall
by the end of August, and really too pooped to produce much by then, even
though the weather was still very hot for months afterward. So I am
thinking that we might get tomatoes much later than anyone else, but at
least the plants will still be healthy and producing at the end of the
growing season.
Someone give me some encouragement!
--S.
Posted by Bill who putters on June 12, 2010, 3:49 pm
> I live in southern Utah, zone 7 or 8. > > I started tomatoes a little too early this year (it shouldn't have been too > early, but we had cold weather much longer than we usually do), and by the > time it was warm enough to put them outside, they were stressed to the point > where only about 6-8 out of 200+ made it. > > So I started some new seeds a month ago. I planned to put the little plants > outside yesterday, but right before that I went out of town and forgot to > tell my husband to water them. I came home to find a hundred tomato > seedlings flat and dead in their little pellets. > > I planted more seeds yesterday. They should be ready to put into the ground > in about a month. Am I just kidding myself, or do people actually start > tomatoes with success this late in the season? I should say that in most > years we don't get killing frosts until October or later, so our growing > season is in fact quite long. Last year, my plants were about ten feet tall > by the end of August, and really too pooped to produce much by then, even > though the weather was still very hot for months afterward. So I am > thinking that we might get tomatoes much later than anyone else, but at > least the plants will still be healthy and producing at the end of the > growing season. > > Someone give me some encouragement! > --S.
Hope Charlie is about and well!
Bill
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> > > >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:41:16 -0500, "The moderator" > >> > >> >This is my first garden and it wasn't ready to plant until now. > >> >According > >> >to the local planting schedule I missed the planting dates for some of my > >> >early crops. > >> > > >> >Can I plant late and still get healthy plants? Peas, Spinach, Broccoli, > >> >potatoes? > >> > > >> >Thanks > >> >
This is out'en Charlie's archive. I only steal from the best.
Late Planting Guide From Seed
From an Old Organic Magazine
Frost date is Oct 15 Last frost May 15
Your dates may differ due to your climate
July 4 100 days till Oct 15
Frost tender
85 days Snap Beans by July 25
97 days Corn by July 4
86 days Cucumbers by July 25
110 days Tomatoes by June 25
81 ays Squash by Aug 1
Survive Light Frost
90 days Cauliflower by July 25
84 days Chinese Cabbage by July 25
74 days Beets by Aug 15
113 days Endive by June 25
63 days Kohlrabi by Aug 30
76 days Loose Leaf Lettuce by Aug 1r
96 days Head Lettuce by July 4
70 days Peas by Aug 15
Survive Heavy Frost
99 days Cabbage by July 4
85 days Carrots by July 25
70 days Chard by Aug 15
90 days Collards by July 4
95 days Broccoli by July 4
120 days Brussels Sprouts by June 15
95 days Kale by July 4
42 days Radishes Summer by Sept 5
72 days Radishes Winter by Aug 15
64 days Spinach by Aug 25
51 days Turnips by Sept 15
-- People need to remember that these are average frost dates, for zone
5.
I'm also zone five.
Some years things will be done in around the average date, other years
it may go much later. Three years ago we were still harvesting
tomatoes aaround thanksgiving time. I had covered a few plants when
frost hit the end of october. No frost or freeze until around
thnksgiving.
Charlie
An' that's the way it is, movin' on.
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Billy
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Posted by Billy on June 12, 2010, 4:14 pm
> I live in southern Utah, zone 7 or 8. > > I started tomatoes a little too early this year (it shouldn't have been too > early, but we had cold weather much longer than we usually do), and by the > time it was warm enough to put them outside, they were stressed to the point > where only about 6-8 out of 200+ made it. > > So I started some new seeds a month ago. I planned to put the little plants > outside yesterday, but right before that I went out of town and forgot to > tell my husband to water them. I came home to find a hundred tomato > seedlings flat and dead in their little pellets. > > I planted more seeds yesterday. They should be ready to put into the ground > in about a month. Am I just kidding myself, or do people actually start > tomatoes with success this late in the season? I should say that in most > years we don't get killing frosts until October or later, so our growing > season is in fact quite long. Last year, my plants were about ten feet tall > by the end of August, and really too pooped to produce much by then, even > though the weather was still very hot for months afterward. So I am > thinking that we might get tomatoes much later than anyone else, but at > least the plants will still be healthy and producing at the end of the > growing season. > > Someone give me some encouragement! > --S.
What kind of tomatoes are you growing?
Glacier, Stupice, Sun Gold VFNT, Siberia, Shirley F1, Native Sun, Max,
Kalinka, Ildi, Early Pick VFF, Alpine , and Early Girl are supposed to
set in 60 days or less.
Glacier (det) is supposed to be for containers and only grow 30" tall. I
have 2 in the ground, one is 30", but the other is 4'.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
> I live in southern Utah, zone 7 or 8. > > I started tomatoes a little too early this year (it shouldn't have been > too early, but we had cold weather much longer than we usually do), and > by the time it was warm enough to put them outside, they were stressed > to the point where only about 6-8 out of 200+ made it. > > So I started some new seeds a month ago. I planned to put the little > plants outside yesterday, but right before that I went out of town and > forgot to tell my husband to water them. I came home to find a hundred > tomato seedlings flat and dead in their little pellets. > > I planted more seeds yesterday. They should be ready to put into the > ground in about a month. Am I just kidding myself, or do people > actually start tomatoes with success this late in the season? I should > say that in most years we don't get killing frosts until October or > later, so our growing season is in fact quite long. Last year, my > plants were about ten feet tall by the end of August, and really too > pooped to produce much by then, even though the weather was still very > hot for months afterward. So I am thinking that we might get tomatoes > much later than anyone else, but at least the plants will still be > healthy and producing at the end of the growing season. > > Someone give me some encouragement! > --S.
You're better off direct-sowing them at this point rather than
starting them indoors. Did you sow them in pellets or just scatter
them in a half a milk carton (etc)? Put them out as soon as you
can, and protect them from direct sun for a day or two. As long as
you didn't plant a late-season variety you should be fine. The
volunteer tomatoes here usually almost catch up with the early
transplants.
Bob
Posted by Suzanne D. on June 13, 2010, 12:42 am
> You're better off direct-sowing them at this point rather than starting > them indoors.
I thought about that, but my current beds are quite "rough," made up mainly
of last year's leaves. I could put a handful of commercial soil into a hole
to plant the seeds, but I fear they'd get completely swallowed by the
leaves.
>Did you sow them in pellets or just scatter them in a half a milk carton >(etc)?
I planted them in Jiffy peat pellets. About three seeds to a pellet.
>As long as you didn't plant a late-season variety you should be fine. The >volunteer tomatoes here usually almost catch up with the early transplants.
What constitutes early or late varieties? Some of mine mature in 70-85
days, and others more toward 100 days.
--S.
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> I started tomatoes a little too early this year (it shouldn't have been too
> early, but we had cold weather much longer than we usually do), and by the
> time it was warm enough to put them outside, they were stressed to the point
> where only about 6-8 out of 200+ made it.
>
> So I started some new seeds a month ago. I planned to put the little plants
> outside yesterday, but right before that I went out of town and forgot to
> tell my husband to water them. I came home to find a hundred tomato
> seedlings flat and dead in their little pellets.
>
> I planted more seeds yesterday. They should be ready to put into the ground
> in about a month. Am I just kidding myself, or do people actually start
> tomatoes with success this late in the season? I should say that in most
> years we don't get killing frosts until October or later, so our growing
> season is in fact quite long. Last year, my plants were about ten feet tall
> by the end of August, and really too pooped to produce much by then, even
> though the weather was still very hot for months afterward. So I am
> thinking that we might get tomatoes much later than anyone else, but at
> least the plants will still be healthy and producing at the end of the
> growing season.
>
> Someone give me some encouragement!
> --S.