What do you do with your bounty? - Page 2

 


'Suzanne D.[_2_ Wrote:

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guette sliced length-wise horizontally
fresh ripe tomatoes
basil leaves, fresh, chopped
1 large clove garlic, cut in half
Extra virgin olive oil

Broil the sliced side of baguette until light to golden brown.
Rub the toasted side with cut garlic clove, while the bread is still
warm.




--
macrylinda1

 




    Eat them, of course, or save them 'til later; what else? Any more
gets frozen or otherwise preserved. If there's "extra", I compost it and
investigate growing less in future. I try to keep the garden and its
(adverse) impact on the environment minimal so when I find myself with
repeated surpluses, I know it's time to make some adjustments. The only
neighbor that I know and who cooks has carte blanche but helps herself
only to a few fresh herbs, for some reason.
    Don't plant very many tomatoes, for example, because neither DW nor
I is really big on fruit and, as fruit goes, tomatoes aren't all that
special. We have difficulty obtaining ripe fruit because, on the whole,
we must prefer tomatoes green because  we certainly seem to eat them up.
--
the Balvenieman
USDA zone 9b, peninsular Florida, U.S.A.
If your neighbor has a cow and you do not,
Kill your neighbor's cow.    

 

Bill who putters wrote:

Simply display the true flavour of the vegetable.

- Use it while it is absolutely fresh
- Don't overcook it
- Don't over-fancify it and obscure the flavour with too many other things.
Your produce has not been degrading in a cool room for weeks so you don't
need to make up for that.

Other than in vegetarian households vegetables are rarely the centre of the
meal in western countries.  With good produce you can change that.  I still
love my meat but I have grown  towards veges.  Which is cheaper and better
for my health.

David

 



David, you still going to be able to grow a garden, after the Americans
buy up your water rights?

"Australia has privatized its water totally, and basically it¹s now for
sale. And there¹s a big American investment firm that¹s actually buying
up water rights. It was supposed to be, originally, just to get the
farmers of the big farm conglomerates to share, to trade, but now it¹s
all gone private and international, so they¹re hardly going to support
something that says that water, is a human right, when they¹ve
commodified it and said it¹s a market commodity."
<http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/29/in_historic_vote_un_declares_acces
s>
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2010/07/201072816515308172.html

 

Billy wrote:

This is a complex issue.  The rights to the water that falls on the
catchment to public water supplies is broadly not for sale, the Government
holds onto that by excluding most of it from being a tradeable commodity.
In a city/suburban situation you can do whatever you like with the water
that falls on your property (and the grey water you generate provided you
don't poison people with it) but you cannot sell it.

In the rural situation (which is me) every property owner has a "harvestable
right".  Roughly speaking you can impound and use 10% of the water that
falls on your land but not from permanent waterways.  Additionally you can
extract from permanent waterways an unlimited amount for no cost for "bona
fide domestic purposes".   So I could use that to grow whatever I like
provided it is not a commercial venture, this last constraint does in
practice limit how much you can extract.  Neither of these rights are
saleable.

In addition I own a water licence which permits me to extract a specified
amount of water from permanent waterways per annum for a fairly nominal
cost.  This licence is saleable but only applies to the specified catchment
so it is not possible to buy up water licences and use them wherever you
like.

It is essential for proper long term water management for water to be given
a genuine and realistic value at least in commercial quantities.  In the
past it was pretty much free in all circumstances.   What do people do with
a resource that is "free"?  They over use it.  I think you are familiar with
the phrase "the tragedy of the commons".  So we have the absurdities of
growing rice and cotton in dryland areas by massive (and wasteful)
irrigation and more water being allocated from the Murray-Darling than is
actually available except in flood years.  The sooner this water is given a
sensible value the sooner this kind of abuse will be gone.

As you can see the above quote is very misleading regarding the ownership of
water in Australia.  As for the motivation of the Gov to not want to vote
for water as a basic right I have no clear idea but Oz does vote with
America on many issues for reasons that may have nothing to do with the
issue itself.

David