Posted by David Hare-Scott on March 4, 2010, 1:50 am
Charlie wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:12:27 +1100, "David Hare-Scott"
>> And of course it can be used as a personal lubricant. It doesn't
>> say if extra virgin olive oil is required. I doubt that there are
>> many extra virgins around here but in those Tuscan hills you never
>> know. And it can be applied to smooth the skin after shaving. Two
>> uses in one! Three if you add in polishing the furniture at the
>> same time. I am all for re-use and recycle.
>>
>> I bet you can use for polishing the ornaments or "polir le Chinois"
>> as they say just over the border in France. If you are in a hurry
>> it frees stuck zippers. Those hot-blooded Mediterranean people sure
>> are ingenious.
> I owe you an apology, David. I have apparently unjustly characterized
> you as humorless and coldly analytical.
> Mea Culpa
> Charlie
Humour and analysis are not mutually exclusive, I know some top analysts
whose humour is rollicking but it can also be daunting. I usually limit
expeditions into humour on usenet because it is too easy to give offence
accidentally when people are from other cultures and if they cannot tell for
sure that you are being playful even those from very similar cultures can
get cranky over small things.
Here's to fun
David
Posted by FarmI on March 4, 2010, 5:12 am
>> > Well, Tony is posting from Italy. Beyond that I am not sure. The
>> > address
>> > is just his internet providers address and not Tony's himself. However
>> > one could call the phone number and try to find greater details.
>> >
>> > Sooo, Privacy and computers do not go well. When posting always be
>> > kind.
>> >
>> > So does this answer your question FarmI ????
>>
>> Not really. I know how to do a properties check and whois check and have
>> done them enough, but as you say, all you end up with is the ISP addy and
>> >> details. Now that may work for a general location and maybe even
>> narrow it
>> to a very small area if a local ISP is used, but that won't help if an
>> ISP
>> that provides nationwide service is used.
>>
>> It was only a passing fancy anyway but I do wish I was much more computer
>> literate than I am.
> Perhaps...
> However, if one has really legal problem with a user, that ISP's phone
> number with the posting information might lead directly to the machine
> and time that user was using. Even if that user is using a public
> library account can lead to the person. At my local library, cameras are
> everywhere.
True.
> The smart criminal type would use a stolen laptop and drive up and down
> the streets looking for an open wireless connection. Those are hard to
> track.
> There is an interesting magazine you might like: http://www.2600.com/
> The Magazine has no interest to me today. I use to read it many many
> years ago when I was school.
My anti-virus software warns me against that site.
Posted by Dan L. on March 4, 2010, 11:06 am
> >> > Well, Tony is posting from Italy. Beyond that I am not sure. The
> >> > address
> >> > is just his internet providers address and not Tony's himself. However
> >> > one could call the phone number and try to find greater details.
> >> >
> >> > Sooo, Privacy and computers do not go well. When posting always be
> >> > kind.
> >> >
> >> > So does this answer your question FarmI ????
> >>
> >> Not really. I know how to do a properties check and whois check and have
> >> done them enough, but as you say, all you end up with is the ISP addy and
> >> >> details. Now that may work for a general location and maybe even
> >> narrow it
> >> to a very small area if a local ISP is used, but that won't help if an
> >> ISP
> >> that provides nationwide service is used.
> >>
> >> It was only a passing fancy anyway but I do wish I was much more computer
> >> literate than I am.
> >
> > Perhaps...
> >
> > However, if one has really legal problem with a user, that ISP's phone
> > number with the posting information might lead directly to the machine
> > and time that user was using. Even if that user is using a public
> > library account can lead to the person. At my local library, cameras are
> > everywhere.
>
> True.
> >
> > The smart criminal type would use a stolen laptop and drive up and down
> > the streets looking for an open wireless connection. Those are hard to
> > track.
> >
> > There is an interesting magazine you might like: http://www.2600.com/
> > The Magazine has no interest to me today. I use to read it many many
> > years ago when I was school.
>
> My anti-virus software warns me against that site.
Does not surprise me :)
The "2600" magazine is computer hackers web site. They have have a nice
quarterly publication, can be purchased at most book stores. They have
meetings around the country. By your posting I thought you might be
interested in that type of computing. However, it has been decades since
I read that magazine. Like accounting classes, they teach how to steal
in order to protect yourself. I should add, I am an ACM member
(Association for Computing Machinery). It is good that you have such
software running. I think to some degree you already know how to protect
yourself. I think you have more knowledge about computers than you let
on :)
I use a unix based machine, they are much harder to get into.
I would never ever own a wintel machine!
Enjoy Life... Dan :)
--
Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.
Posted by FarmI on March 5, 2010, 12:09 am
>> >> > Well, Tony is posting from Italy. Beyond that I am not sure. The
>> >> > address
>> >> > is just his internet providers address and not Tony's himself.
>> >> > However
>> >> > one could call the phone number and try to find greater details.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sooo, Privacy and computers do not go well. When posting always be
>> >> > kind.
>> >> >
>> >> > So does this answer your question FarmI ????
>> >>
>> >> Not really. I know how to do a properties check and whois check and
>> >> have
>> >> done them enough, but as you say, all you end up with is the ISP addy
>> >> and
>> >> >> details. Now that may work for a general location and maybe even
>> >> narrow it
>> >> to a very small area if a local ISP is used, but that won't help if an
>> >> ISP
>> >> that provides nationwide service is used.
>> >>
>> >> It was only a passing fancy anyway but I do wish I was much more
>> >> computer
>> >> literate than I am.
>> >
>> > Perhaps...
>> >
>> > However, if one has really legal problem with a user, that ISP's phone
>> > number with the posting information might lead directly to the machine
>> > and time that user was using. Even if that user is using a public
>> > library account can lead to the person. At my local library, cameras
>> > are
>> > everywhere.
>>
>> True.
>> >
>> > The smart criminal type would use a stolen laptop and drive up and down
>> > the streets looking for an open wireless connection. Those are hard to
>> > track.
>> >
>> > There is an interesting magazine you might like: http://www.2600.com/
>> > The Magazine has no interest to me today. I use to read it many many
>> > years ago when I was school.
>>
>> My anti-virus software warns me against that site.
> Does not surprise me :)
> The "2600" magazine is computer hackers web site. They have have a nice
> quarterly publication, can be purchased at most book stores. They have
> meetings around the country. By your posting I thought you might be
> interested in that type of computing. However, it has been decades since
> I read that magazine. Like accounting classes, they teach how to steal
> in order to protect yourself. I should add, I am an ACM member
> (Association for Computing Machinery). It is good that you have such
> software running. I think to some degree you already know how to protect
> yourself. I think you have more knowledge about computers than you let
> on :)
Well I'm a whizz on using google and can certainly find my way around all
features of my email prog, but I wouldn't know how to load a piece of
software to save myself.
> I use a unix based machine, they are much harder to get into.
> I would never ever own a wintel machine!
Now I recognise those words as being in English but I have absolutley no
idea whatsoever what you are writing about. :-))) He who is sitting the
the kitchen and worked in IT for 40+ years may know, but certainly not me.
:-((
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>> And of course it can be used as a personal lubricant. It doesn't
>> say if extra virgin olive oil is required. I doubt that there are
>> many extra virgins around here but in those Tuscan hills you never
>> know. And it can be applied to smooth the skin after shaving. Two
>> uses in one! Three if you add in polishing the furniture at the
>> same time. I am all for re-use and recycle.
>>
>> I bet you can use for polishing the ornaments or "polir le Chinois"
>> as they say just over the border in France. If you are in a hurry
>> it frees stuck zippers. Those hot-blooded Mediterranean people sure
>> are ingenious.
> I owe you an apology, David. I have apparently unjustly characterized
> you as humorless and coldly analytical.
> Mea Culpa
> Charlie