Posted by David Hare-Scott on May 26, 2011, 8:31 pm
Wikipedia says pumpkins are a warm season crop and in the US most grow
in Illinois and are planted in July.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin
Now obviously the US is a big place and has different climates in the
north and south but in my experience pumpkins need a long growing
season to allow the fruit to reach full size and to ripen. Here they
grow between last frost and first frost, about 8 months, even so a
number are not full size or ripe as the vine keeps flowering and
setting fruit up until death. I grow table (not cattle) pumpkins and
in that time I get about 30 mature fruit (100kg, 250lbs) per vine. The
vine is quite large!
If it is too cold to plant until July how long can the season be, two
or three months? Does this mean that each vine only ripens the first
set fruit in the limited time? What kind of yield per vine do they
get?
Could somebody with relevant experience who is not too far from
Illinois shed some light please.
David
Posted by Jim Elbrecht on May 26, 2011, 8:53 pm
On Fri, 27 May 2011 10:31:07 +1000, David Hare-Scott
>Wikipedia says pumpkins are a warm season crop and in the US most grow
>in Illinois and are planted in July.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin
>Now obviously the US is a big place and has different climates in the
>north and south but in my experience pumpkins need a long growing
>season to allow the fruit to reach full size and to ripen.
There is a subtle difference-- but what IL is claiming is that they
provide 95% of the "Processed" pumpkins. not Jack-o-lanterns. That
might be in large part because Nestle is there- not because of their
'perfect for pumpkin' climate..
The Sugar Baby pumpkins that I used to grow for pies were a 60-70 day
crop- unlike the big ones that are 120+.
-snip-
>If it is too cold to plant until July how long can the season be, two
>or three months? Does this mean that each vine only ripens the first
>set fruit in the limited time? What kind of yield per vine do they
>get?
>Could somebody with relevant experience who is not too far from
>Illinois shed some light please.
I'm not in IL- but I'm zone 5. My sugar baby's were a long time ago,
but if I remember correctly, the vines would set a 1/2 dozen fruit and
they'd ripen. Kind of like a determinate tomato.
Jim
Posted by Jim Elbrecht on May 26, 2011, 9:22 pm
-snip-
>The Sugar Baby pumpkins that I used to grow for pies were a 60-70 day
>crop- unlike the big ones that are 120+.
I can't find "Sugar Baby" -- but further thought & a bit of poking
around makes me think these were more like 90 day pumpkins. I
planted them 2nd week of June & first frost was usually mid-Sept.
This page has a bunch of pumpkin varieties and mentions the vine,
which reminded me that these things I used to grow were 'bush'
pumpkins.
Jim
Posted by Jim Elbrecht on May 26, 2011, 9:28 pm
>-snip-
>>
>>The Sugar Baby pumpkins that I used to grow for pies were a 60-70 day
>>crop- unlike the big ones that are 120+.
>I can't find "Sugar Baby" -- but further thought & a bit of poking
>around makes me think these were more like 90 day pumpkins. I
>planted them 2nd week of June & first frost was usually mid-Sept.
>This page has a bunch of pumpkin varieties and mentions the vine,
>which reminded me that these things I used to grow were 'bush'
>pumpkins.
That would be *this* page-
http://www.backyardgardener.com/RUPP.HTM
>Jim
Posted by Billy on May 27, 2011, 12:59 pm
>
> -snip-
> >
> >The Sugar Baby pumpkins that I used to grow for pies were a 60-70 day
> >crop- unlike the big ones that are 120+.
>
> I can't find "Sugar Baby" -- but further thought & a bit of poking
> around makes me think these were more like 90 day pumpkins. I
> planted them 2nd week of June & first frost was usually mid-Sept.
>
> This page has a bunch of pumpkin varieties and mentions the vine,
> which reminded me that these things I used to grow were 'bush'
> pumpkins.
>
> Jim
Thanks for the search. Typing "Sugar Baby" into Google was quite
titillating ;O)
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>in Illinois and are planted in July.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin
>Now obviously the US is a big place and has different climates in the
>north and south but in my experience pumpkins need a long growing
>season to allow the fruit to reach full size and to ripen.