?? Pine Bark for pH regulation?

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Posted by Derald on April 27, 2011, 12:53 pm
 
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Anyone have experience using pine bark for long-term pH control? I'd be
interested in reading about your technique/method, quantities needed, and
long-term results.
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TIA,
Derald


Posted by Gunner on April 27, 2011, 1:13 pm
 
WSU is our land grant and Dr. Chalker-Scott is the local Master
Gardener POC.  Research her articles for background and to see if they
answer your questions and then email her with any specifics.  She has
answered questions in the past.  Either of the below will get you
started:

http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~linda%20chalker-scott/horticultural%20myths_fi=
les/Myths/magazine%20pdfs/Woodchips.pdf
 or
http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Wood%20chip%20references=
.html

We have Tokul soil here in the Sound area of the PNW, moslty Doug fir
but evergreen nevertheless. Your pH is going to vary with the type
bark, the stage of decomp and depth and of course,  the amount of rain
and what kinds of debris, dust and pollen you collect.  Mine in the
sampled garden in Feb was 6.2 w/ a buffer of 6.5, the  OM sampled @
14% if you need that info.  Last year I put 2-3 inches of bark on the
sampled garden after it was tilled in the early fall before the rains
in Mid Oct.  The sample was taken at a 4-6" depth,  This year will
have more chip than bark.   I do have mushrooms pop up every so often
but not near the weeds as I would have suspected.

Most years I also get a yard of fine "beauty bark" to spread on my
lawn's soft spots around mid June.   I also use a bark media in
certain of my bonsai and still occasionally in hydroponics media but
those are more overly manipulated examples.

Posted by Derald on April 29, 2011, 8:17 pm
 
    Thanks for that. I'll give it all a close read, for sure. I'm diagonally
opposite you on the N.A. continent: Peninsular Florida. Geologically, this was
seabed about 15 minutes ago. Native soil is sand, sand, and more sand over
limestone. My well water is "soft" but alkaline.
    Iron chlorosis is a chronic problem and there is a limit to just how much
sulfur one can dump on the garden; vinegar is fast-acting but fleeting. Down
here, highbush blueberry cultivars are grown commercially directly in pine bark
atop the soil and, since I have ready (and inexpensive) access to bulk pine bark
-- several of my neighbors are small blueberry farmers -- I thought I'd look
into pine bark as acidification amendment. Still do.
--
Thanks, again,
Derald

Posted by Derald on May 6, 2011, 2:51 am
 


    Alas, saw only one reference to pine bark in your citations and that was
regarding its use as mulch which, from the above, I infer also is your
application. I don't ever use mulch in my raised beds. I'd just chip the bark to
a finer texture than it comes from the sawmill and incorporate it directly into
the beds. I think I'll set one aside next spring for experimentation. If I cop
bark -- it's bark only, no wood chips -- from a neighbor blueberry farmer, it'll
be freshly peeled. I figure, if I can get some this spring, it will compost
sufficiently by next spring. It may be too late this year to do that, although,
one of the you-pick operators still may have bark available.
    In the meantime, I'll look around for some quantitative guidance. As a
rule, I add 2 cubic feet of composted cow manure, from a nearby dairy, mixed
with whatever other compost is on-hand (not much) to each 3'X8' bed before
planting, of which, there generally are at least two per year. Worst case, I
guess, I can just incorporate an arbitrary volume in ½ of a bed, give it time to
stabilize, and see whether A-B comparison shows any significant difference but
won't get obsessive about it. I'm open to any suggestions that don't involve
body orifices.

have >suspected.
    If I have "weeds", my garden truck ain't planted close enough; LOL!
Seriously.
--
Derald

Posted by Gunner on May 10, 2011, 12:01 pm
 
search "ramial chipped wood ".

The study:   http://www.sbf.ulaval.ca/brf/regenerating_soils_98.html