Posted by Bill who putters on March 20, 2011, 8:50 am
http://www.emmitsburg.net/gardens/articles/adams/2003/microclimates.htm
or http://thurly.net/148z
Just some ideas on how to protect or enhance or inhibit plant growth.
In a way your home can save energy using similar info.
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Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
http://uppitywis.org/ live WI
Posted by gardenlen on March 20, 2011, 2:48 pm
yes it all starts with knowing about and being able to identify the
aspects of the land, ie.,. northern hemi' ideal would be a southern
aspect around to eastern. add some knowledge of average weather
conditions eg.,. rainfall an you can have a producing garden in an
area that say gets more rain than other near by places.
then the right sort of house needs to be built for the climate area so
it is truely efficient to run. lots of stumbling block in there as
many have no idea to even look for aspect let alone what it is, and
outside the indoctrinated mcmansion designs very many won't look at
altenatives.
so when buying property use the head and not the heart, the heart can
come later, develop a criteria. the orientation of the house on the
property counts.
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:50:00 -0400, Bill who putters
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Matthew 25:13 KJV
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither
the day nor the hour wherein the Son
of man cometh"
Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, watch and pray:
for ye know not when the time is".
and also: Isaiah 38:1&17-18 KJV
1: Thus saith the Lord, set thine house in order: for thou shalt die and not
live.
17: for thou hast cast all my sins behind my back.
18: For the grave cannot praise thee, death cannot celebrate thee: they that go
down in the pit cannot hope for truth.
len
With peace and brightest of blessings,
"Seek truth and understanding will follow"
http://www.lensgarden.com.au/
Posted by David Hare-Scott on March 20, 2011, 7:06 pm
gardenlen wrote:
> yes it all starts with knowing about and being able to identify the
> aspects of the land, ie.,. northern hemi' ideal would be a southern
> aspect around to eastern. add some knowledge of average weather
> conditions eg.,. rainfall an you can have a producing garden in an
> area that say gets more rain than other near by places.
> then the right sort of house needs to be built for the climate area so
> it is truely efficient to run. lots of stumbling block in there as
> many have no idea to even look for aspect let alone what it is, and
> outside the indoctrinated mcmansion designs very many won't look at
> altenatives.
> so when buying property use the head and not the heart, the heart can
> come later, develop a criteria. the orientation of the house on the
> property counts.
Quite right Len. So many houses, even newly erected, contain basic errors
that could easily be avoided. For example, they are oriented towards the
street or the view not the sun, or in hot climates they have unshaded
sunward windows. I know of people who are saving money by not including
insulation but they worry whether the portico should have Ionic or
Corinthian columns, of course they plan for aircon to deal with their design
errors. Such carelessness and ignorance will come back and bite them and
their heirs and successors.
Something else to consider is using the garden to improve the house. It is
common for people to assume that this means only the aspect and decorating
concepts such as linking the outdoors into the house. The plants that you
grow can do all that as well as improving the thermal performance of the
house. For example you can shade a sun-facing window in summer but allow in
the sun in winter by having a trellis with a deciduous vine over it.
David
Posted by The Cook on March 21, 2011, 9:26 am
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:06:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott"
>gardenlen wrote:
>> yes it all starts with knowing about and being able to identify the
>> aspects of the land, ie.,. northern hemi' ideal would be a southern
>> aspect around to eastern. add some knowledge of average weather
>> conditions eg.,. rainfall an you can have a producing garden in an
>> area that say gets more rain than other near by places.
>>
>> then the right sort of house needs to be built for the climate area so
>> it is truely efficient to run. lots of stumbling block in there as
>> many have no idea to even look for aspect let alone what it is, and
>> outside the indoctrinated mcmansion designs very many won't look at
>> altenatives.
>>
>> so when buying property use the head and not the heart, the heart can
>> come later, develop a criteria. the orientation of the house on the
>> property counts.
>>
>Quite right Len. So many houses, even newly erected, contain basic errors
>that could easily be avoided. For example, they are oriented towards the
>street or the view not the sun, or in hot climates they have unshaded
>sunward windows. I know of people who are saving money by not including
>insulation but they worry whether the portico should have Ionic or
>Corinthian columns, of course they plan for aircon to deal with their design
>errors. Such carelessness and ignorance will come back and bite them and
>their heirs and successors.
>Something else to consider is using the garden to improve the house. It is
>common for people to assume that this means only the aspect and decorating
>concepts such as linking the outdoors into the house. The plants that you
>grow can do all that as well as improving the thermal performance of the
>house. For example you can shade a sun-facing window in summer but allow in
>the sun in winter by having a trellis with a deciduous vine over it.
>David
I admit that we got the best orientation when we bought this house.
But it was luck. The house faces the west and we have two very large
Oak trees in the front yard. The deck is on the back and gets the
morning sun. By late afternoon the deck is completely shaded and
comfortable unless the day is extremely hot. We got one of the
sunshade awnings and roll it out early in the day to keep the heat out
of the kitchen and family room.
If I were looking for a building lot I would be checking out the
orientation and prevailing winds. Then see if I could build the kind
of house and orientation I wanted there. If I were planning to garden
I would also think about orientation & winds.
--
USA
North Carolina Foothills
USDA Zone 7a
Posted by David Hare-Scott on March 21, 2011, 6:39 pm
The Cook wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:06:30 +1100, "David Hare-Scott"
>> gardenlen wrote:
>>> yes it all starts with knowing about and being able to identify the
>>> aspects of the land, ie.,. northern hemi' ideal would be a southern
>>> aspect around to eastern. add some knowledge of average weather
>>> conditions eg.,. rainfall an you can have a producing garden in an
>>> area that say gets more rain than other near by places.
>>>
>>> then the right sort of house needs to be built for the climate area
>>> so it is truely efficient to run. lots of stumbling block in there
>>> as many have no idea to even look for aspect let alone what it is,
>>> and outside the indoctrinated mcmansion designs very many won't
>>> look at altenatives.
>>>
>>> so when buying property use the head and not the heart, the heart
>>> can come later, develop a criteria. the orientation of the house on
>>> the property counts.
>>>
>>
>> Quite right Len. So many houses, even newly erected, contain basic
>> errors that could easily be avoided. For example, they are oriented
>> towards the street or the view not the sun, or in hot climates they
>> have unshaded sunward windows. I know of people who are saving
>> money by not including insulation but they worry whether the portico
>> should have Ionic or Corinthian columns, of course they plan for
>> aircon to deal with their design errors. Such carelessness and
>> ignorance will come back and bite them and their heirs and
>> successors.
>>
>> Something else to consider is using the garden to improve the house.
>> It is common for people to assume that this means only the aspect
>> and decorating concepts such as linking the outdoors into the house.
>> The plants that you grow can do all that as well as improving the
>> thermal performance of the house. For example you can shade a
>> sun-facing window in summer but allow in the sun in winter by having
>> a trellis with a deciduous vine over it.
>>
>> David
> I admit that we got the best orientation when we bought this house.
> But it was luck. The house faces the west and we have two very large
> Oak trees in the front yard. The deck is on the back and gets the
> morning sun. By late afternoon the deck is completely shaded and
> comfortable unless the day is extremely hot. We got one of the
> sunshade awnings and roll it out early in the day to keep the heat out
> of the kitchen and family room.
You may have got the best aspect for your deck but not for the overall
thermal performance of the house. In temperate zones the best aspect is
that the long sides of the house face north and south. In your climate you
would be missing out on getting winter sun into the house which will add to
your heating bills.
> If I were looking for a building lot I would be checking out the
> orientation and prevailing winds. Then see if I could build the kind
> of house and orientation I wanted there. If I were planning to garden
> I would also think about orientation & winds.
Certainly.
David
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> aspects of the land, ie.,. northern hemi' ideal would be a southern
> aspect around to eastern. add some knowledge of average weather
> conditions eg.,. rainfall an you can have a producing garden in an
> area that say gets more rain than other near by places.
> then the right sort of house needs to be built for the climate area so
> it is truely efficient to run. lots of stumbling block in there as
> many have no idea to even look for aspect let alone what it is, and
> outside the indoctrinated mcmansion designs very many won't look at
> altenatives.
> so when buying property use the head and not the heart, the heart can
> come later, develop a criteria. the orientation of the house on the
> property counts.